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Re: ThinkerJE makes a return trip to Vegas
« Reply #60 on: June 05, 2008, 08:48:04 AM »


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How do you remember all the detailed hands..etc?


It is impressive isn"t it.

I took a notepad with me last year - but

(a) I still didn"t have time to write notes that detailed and
(b) I don"t think he"s doing it that way anyway!

Keep up the good work Mr Memory.  :)


My memory is not that great.  What we do is note down the key hands from the session at each break and then touch up the details when we get busted.  It helps a lot to talk through the hands and how they played out, and find out what the boys would do in the same situation.  Hopefully we all learn from this and are in a better position to deal with a similar situation in the future.

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Re: ThinkerJE makes a return trip to Vegas
« Reply #61 on: June 05, 2008, 08:49:11 AM »

Does that mean he is a great player?  :o


no

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Re: ThinkerJE makes a return trip to Vegas
« Reply #62 on: June 06, 2008, 00:24:59 AM »
James - Super read mate keep it coming.  Sounds like you"re all giving it a good go, serious amount of poker going on, amongst the beer, women, sports and betting.  You lucks gits!  Best of luck for the rest of the trip.  Say hello to Mart for me. 

One good thing about the states - I bet Big Brother hasn"t just started over there!


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Re: ThinkerJE makes a return trip to Vegas
« Reply #63 on: June 07, 2008, 13:32:36 PM »
OK latest news from LV.  Although please bear in mind it is 4am local time and cold drinks have been taken.

Thursday Ceasar"s $235 NLHE 605 runners.  Another fantastic turnout for yet another top Ceasar"s tournament.

5,700 at first break (end of level 2, 7,500 starting chips).  Not alot of hands.  I am playing alot tighter today.  I am also on the same table as Jon.  A hand developed early on.  There are 6 limpers into my BB which is Qd 4d and I check.  Flop is 527 rainbow and all check.  The turn is the 6d (putting 2 diamonds on board) and Jon bets 200.  I call with my flush draw and hit the river with the 8d.  I bet 450 and Jon folds his set of 5"s face up.  The only other hand of note involved me having Jd 3d in SB, which I m ake up and BB checks.  Flop is J24 and I check (probably should bet this flop), he bets and I call.  Turn is 5s (2 spades on board now) and I check, he bets and I call.  River is 9s and I check again, he bets 400 on the end and I think about it.  He may have a better kicker but I decide to call and he shows 3s 4s for a nice hand.  Apart from those I have mainly stayed out of barny and ried to play alot more tighter and conservative.

I bust out 40mins into level 3 when the following hand occurred.  There are 2 limps in front of me and I find Ac Kd on the SB and raise to 800.  Both the BB and the button calls.  Flop is Ad Jd 7d and I bet 1,500, the BB folds and the button raises to 4,000.  Now I know I am behind.  He either has a made flush, a set of 7"s or AJ, and I am behind to all of them.  However I do have the re draw to the nut flush.  I move all in and get called by a set of 7"s.  No help on turn or river and I am out before the start of level 4.  I don"t think I can get away from that, without Kd it is an easy fold but the re draw to the nut flush makes the decision a lot harder.  I get a rub down from Jon as he announces to the table that I owe him $5 from the last longer bet we had, I pay up and head to the sportsbook pronto.

3 winners on the horses eased my poker pain.  "Cockadoodle", "Orange Street" & "Pretty Lucky Lady" (@15/1) all won and added over $200 to the thinker bankroll.  Also when you place a bet you get a free beer token.  I managed to get 7 of these tokens on Thursday and the Miller Light was flowing by the time the Basketball started in the evening.  Perhaps I should stick to the horses?  The cocktail waitress in the sportsbook was very impressed with my aftershave.  I inform her that it is "Paul Smith" and she comments it must be a british thing.  She loves the smell and british guys in general.  I am flattered and thank her for the compliment and she makes sure the beer is available when required.  We settle down to watch the NBA playoffs before heading back to the Circus.  I am not tired and so play video poker for a couple of hours.  3 beers later and a nifty up, I retire for the evening.

Friday Ceasar"s $340 NLHE, 528 runners.

8,000 at the first break (end of level 2, 12,500 starting chips).  A major pot occurs the very first hand.  I am UTG with 55 and limp for 50.  5 players see a flop of 3c 5h 6h.  The SB bets 2,000 (into a 200 pot), he says he thought they were 100 chips.  BB flat calls behind.  I hate the borad for my set but I decide I am in front and the 4,000 in the pot will be nice to pick up.  I move all in and the 2 both fold.  So I am up to 16,500 after the first hand.  Another interesting hand occurred a few hands later.  There are 4 limpers and I make up in the SB with 36 off.  BB check and the flop is K 5 K and all check.  The turn is the 2 and I bet out my gutshot and get 1 caller.  River is the 4 (to complete my straight) and I value bet 450, then matey raises to 950.  I am wary of the full boat with pocket 5"s or 2"s so I just call and win a nice pot whe the lady shows a king.  Then I take a hit.  This is bad play from me and I do have my stack in one hand.  There is a raise UTG to 200 and 1 call behind.  I am in the SB with Ac Ad and raise to 700, UTG calls and other caller folds.  Flop is 9h 7h 3d and I bet 1,000 and get called.  The turn is 8h and alarm bells start to ring.  I check and he bets 2,500.  Now I am trying to put him on a hand.  TT or JJ seems most likely and I don"t think he would bet the flush so I call.  River is Q, I check and he bets 3,900.  Now I ask myself what has changed since the turn.  He may have hit a set of queens or I could still be ahead with my aces.  I call and he shows Ah Jh for the nut flush.  The bet on the turn totally got me and he won a nice pot.  I have done halve my stack when I did not need to.  This is bad play from me, I should have folded on the turn when the third heart came. 

11,100 at 2nd break (end of level 4).  I was down to 4,200 whne this hand happened.  I raise in early position to 1,200 with 1 caller behind.  Flop is AK7 and I see that the caller is interested so I move all in for 3,000 and get insta called by AQ.  It holds and I am back up to 9,000 now.   The only other hand to note was a raise in mid position with AA to 1,100.  BB re raises to 3,200 (with only 6k back), now this is a solid player and I put him on a big hand.  I think he will call so I move all in and after a dwell he passes JJ face up.  I am playing really solid and have a great table image, I hope I can use this later on.

16,500 at 3rd break (end of level 6).  No real hands, raised with big aces twice to take the binds then the monster hand.  UTG chip daddy raises to 2,500 and the matey next to him goes all in.  I look down at QQ and go into the tank.  With my chips there is only one thing to do, I move all in and its back to chip daddy.  he asks for a count and finally calls.  So we are 3 way QQ vs AK vs QQ (chip daddy).  There is no ace or king and I chop and pick up 7k in this hand.  Nothing else to note from the 2 levels.

I bust out in about 160th, 20 mins into level 8.  A previous hand invloved me raising in early position with Ad Jd.  Big chip daddy calls and then folds when I move in on a Qd Td 3s flop.  I am moved tables.  Limper UTG (he has done this 3 times and folded to a raise), I find Ac Tc on cutoff and raise, all fold and I pick up a nice pot.  Then the exit hand.  I have been blinded down and have only 15,800 in chips.  All fold to the button who raises to 4,800 (blinds 800-1,600 with 200 ante), I find As Qs in BB and push all in.  He says "I"m probably behind" and calls 11,000 with A 3 off.  A flop of 234, turn 8, river 2 and I am felted and absolutely gutted.  I felt I played alot better today and apart from the AA call I made good decisions all day.

I joined Jon in the sportsbook and managed to find 2 more winners (I really should stick to horses), got stuck into the beer and the pu$$ycats.  Martyn is still going strong in the tournament and I end up railing him till 2am, hence why I have had a bit to drink, as he has made day 2 with good chips (235k), and is in position to to have a go at winning it.  He has already made the cash and will be looking to go deeper when play resumes at 2am local time.  This is a top effort by Martyn and a reward for his play throughout the entire trip.

So thats about it.  The original plan for tomorrow was to have a day off and chill by the pool with beer, some chinese and then go clubbing on the evening.  However hopefully Martyn will have a final table to take care of, and so the plans may be subject to change.

Till the next time...

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Re: ThinkerJE makes a return trip to Vegas
« Reply #64 on: June 07, 2008, 14:06:13 PM »
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got stuck into the beer and the pu$$ycats


I think we"d all like to hear more about this ...  :P

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Re: ThinkerJE makes a return trip to Vegas
« Reply #65 on: June 07, 2008, 19:40:17 PM »
Ok, just woke up with a banging headache, way too much Miller Light last night.  The plan for today is to have a day off poker and rail Martyn on day 2 of yesterday"s tournament.  Its starts at 2pm local time so I have a couple of hours to sort myself out and get down to Ceasar"s.  He has about 235k in chips with the average around 165k so he is in good shape.  There was one crazy hand that happened late last night (or was it early this morning).  UTG moves all in for about 40k and I am watching behind Martyn when I see he has KK.  He moves all in for 80k and looks confident.  Then another guy moves all in behind him for 120k.  W
e look at each other and are both thinking the same thing, what a time to run into aces.  Then the BB takes ages to muck his cards, not sure what he had but he was never going to call.  So its 3 way AK vs KK vs QQ (this is surely a fold with his chips).  The best hand holds and Martyn is up 200k.

I have just found out that the football has started with the Czech Republic beating Switzerland.  This is another result for the thinker bankroll as the Ceasar"s sportsbook had the Czech"s at 8/5, which myself and Jon thought was way too big so we lumped on.  I had priced them around the 4/5 mark so 8/5 was simply silly (those septics know nothing about soccer).  Add that to another nifty won on the video poker and it seems that I am winning on everything except the poker.  I am not down about it as I am generally making good decisions (a few mistakes) and getting my money in good.  I just need the cards to hold and a deep run is just round the corner.  As a change we are heading to Binion"s tomorrow to play the PL Omaha event.  This should be a lot of fun, it will be interesting to see how many runners they get and the standard of the play (my bet is on variable). 

Friday night in LV is simply mad.  The queue for the nightclub was right through the casino.  Also the suits on the door only let ladies into the club,  How does this work then, the entire club is full of ladies in low cut revealing outfits, what is the point of that if there are no blokes allowed in.  There was also a big performance from either Cher, Elton John or Bette Midler in Ceasar"s Palace.  There was lots of DJ"s and posh frocks mingling about with programmes and drinking champagne.  Those tickets must cost a bit.  Now I have always had a soft spot for Cher (as she has the power to turn back time), and Elton can belt out a good tune but Midler is just annoying.  These people have probably spent the best part of a tournament buy in to see these perform, its not for me, I"ll stick to getting out drawn for my money.

I will update later this evening on how Martyn gets on.

NO BAD BEATS - just a banging headache!!!

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Re: ThinkerJE makes a return trip to Vegas
« Reply #66 on: June 07, 2008, 19:42:03 PM »


Martyn and his monster chipstack at Ceasar"s Palace.

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Re: ThinkerJE makes a return trip to Vegas
« Reply #67 on: June 07, 2008, 21:40:38 PM »
Unlucky with the A3 what a s*** call don"t you hate people i"m behind but i call.
I also had the Czech"s at 8/5 what value thank you will hill croatia are good value also on sunday good luck martyn great read j
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« Reply #68 on: June 08, 2008, 10:59:47 AM »
Ok just got back and yet again cold drinks have been taken so I apologise if I mis type my words.

No poker for me today, instead myself & Jon were railing Martyn in the last 4 tables of the megastack at Ceasar"s that started yesterday.  It all kicks off early with all the short stacks going all in and about 8 players getting busted within the first 20 mins.  Martyn is sitting back and letting them get on with it.  Unfortunately the big double up hand does not arrive.  He does make one incredible laydown when he bins JJ pre flop when a solid tight player has raised UTG.  Both me & Jon agreed that it is the correct fold to that player and if it had been anyone else on the table it would have been a push for sure.  Notwithstanding a couple of blind steals, by the time we get to 12 left Martyn is very short stacked.  He cannot find a spot as there is always action before him, finally he pushes UTG with K9 and gets called by AJ.  No help on the board & Martyn finishes 12th for $1,860.  A top performance to make his way through a tough field and nothing more he could do today.  Well done mate, you deserve it.

It was really interesting watching the play from the rail.  Me & Jon were trying to put people on hands and looking for any information we could pass on to Martyn to help him on his way.  At one break when we felt he needed to get busy and start to loosen up we gave him this big team talk about strategy and all that.  All the time we stressed that it was still his decision how to play.  It is very easy from the rail to say start pushing with any 2, but much more difficult to put the chips into the pot.  I think he agreed with us and I hope that we were able to help him in the tournament.  As it turned out he never had the chance to push with any 2, but I am sure he would have if the opportunity had arrived.  The good thing about our crew is that we all play with different styles and can bring different things to the table with respect to certain poker situations.  We also think alot about the game.  Discussing hands that have occurred and how best to approach certain situations that may occur during a tournament, it all helps in the development of all of our games.

After Martyn had busted we headed to the food court for a chilli dog (which was very nice, and I am curious who decided to put chilli on a hot dog in the first place, and thank him/her loads) and then decided to get some fresh air.  We headed outside the Bellagio to watch the fountain show.  The first was to "big spender" and I must say I was slighty dissapointed.  However as we were leaving another performance started to "time to say goodbye" and I must say it was magnificent.  If you every are in LV then you must check this out.  I know it is just music & water, but it had even a big lump like me mesmorised.  It is truely special.

We then decided that an evening of culture was in order and promptly headed for the bar opposite the pu$$ycat casino to drink beer and watch girls dancing in cages.  This is also very special.

The next 5 hours simply fly away as the beer flows and the topics of conversation include;  Should Martyn have started to push earlier.  Could he have done anything differnet.  Which of the pu$$ycats is the best mover.  Top 5 five Spice Girls/Movie Stars/Pop Stars/Sports Stars/Soap Stars.  All very valid discussion.

I try to get pictures of the pu$$ycats and get blanked by them all.  This is most annoying as the girls were all to happy to pose for pictures for Jon & Martyn, it must be me.

We head back to the Circus around 1am and there is just enough time for me to hit quad aces on the video poker to add another $300 to the thinker bankroll.

Plan for tomorrow is breakfast at 10am then Binion"s at 2pm for the Omaha tournament.  That should be a lot of fun.  Details to follow soon.

NO BAD BEATS - Well done Martyn.  A top performance from a top player.

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Re: ThinkerJE makes a return trip to Vegas
« Reply #69 on: June 08, 2008, 11:15:21 AM »
Yep, well done Martyn. Your pals who spent the last few hours railing know all your tells now tho ...   8)

Erm, did you say the pu$$ycats posed for pictures ... ?

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« Reply #70 on: June 08, 2008, 16:20:45 PM »
" I am flattered and thank her for the compliment and she makes sure the beer is available when required.  We settle down to watch the NBA playoffs....  3 beers later and a nifty up, I retire for the evening. "

What happened thinker....?....We settled down....I retire for the evening....???...lol..lol...

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« Reply #71 on: June 08, 2008, 21:25:16 PM »
James a serious question.Have you left any beer for myself and mr Eccles to drink when we go out for the main event. :D
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« Reply #72 on: June 08, 2008, 22:12:06 PM »

James a serious question.Have you left any beer for myself and mr Eccles to drink when we go out for the main event. :D


Would be great if Eck and yourself could keep us updated on progress once you get out there Micky.

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« Reply #73 on: June 08, 2008, 22:23:19 PM »


James a serious question.Have you left any beer for myself and mr Eccles to drink when we go out for the main event. :D


Would be great if Eck and yourself could keep us updated on progress once you get out there Micky.
Des my self and james were out for a meal last night with our better half,s and we discussed this .Watch this space for .
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« Reply #74 on: June 08, 2008, 22:53:13 PM »

At one break when we felt he needed to get busy and start to loosen up we gave him this big team talk about strategy and all that.


Well done Martyn. Top job, although I think I"ve identified in James"s blog the point in the tournament when it all went wrong. ::)