APAT Staking Exchange - Discussion

[PHIL_TC]

The post count number would be purely arbitrary and I think 300 is probably too high for APAT. I don"t know what the average is but my guess is that 50 - 100 would serve.

Of course anyone asking for a stake should be able to produce verifiable evidence of results.

Good guess Paulie, just done a quick database query.

For those members who have posted (postcount > 0) then the average is 56.74 per member x

No idea how to do this, but try searching for >10 and weed out the very new and the ones who posted once or twice and then went dormant...

We have the technology Sir....

For members who have posted > 10 then the average amongst that happy bunch is 237.22 per member x

[Paulie_D]

For members who have posted > 10 then the average amongst that happy bunch is 237.22 per member x

Although I brought the subject of averages up...it"s not really a meaningful statistic.

It"s the number of users covering each "band" of posting ranges.  I"ve got over 3500 but I"m hardly representative.

If you could tell us how many users there are for say:

50+
100+
200+
300+

I think that would be more relevant.

My guess is that the VAST majority have less than 200.

Factor in the ones who posted a lot a long time ago (Kinfishi) and then went away...and the number of possible user able to participate would go WAAAY down.

[Des]

For members who have posted > 10 then the average amongst that happy bunch is 237.22 per member x

Although I brought the subject of averages up...it"s not really a meaningful statistic.

It"s the number of users covering each "band" of posting ranges.  I"ve got over 3500 but I"m hardly representative.

If you could tell us how many users there are for say:

50+
100+
200+
300+

I think that would be more relevant.

My guess is that the VAST majority have less than 200.

Factor in the ones who posted a lot a long time ago (Kinfishi) and then went away...and the number of possible user able to participate would go WAAAY down.

This is detail and as you said yourself a couple of times earlier Paulie, not really on topic atm.

So far the vast majority seem in favour.  Anyone against?

[ck1888]

I have wanted to stake John Murray a couple of times but money wasn"t involved  

[Paulie_D]

This is detail and as you said yourself a couple of times earlier Paulie, not really on topic atm.

So far the vast majority seem in favour.  Anyone against?

Yeah, I know. Every time I think I"m out, they drag me back in!

JFDI  

Two Child Boards of "General Poker" ?

[fandango]

I believe it to be a good idea, APAT going forward with the times.. I think it"s pretty safe to say most if not all APAT regs are trustworthy.

[stone]

For members who have posted > 10 then the average amongst that happy bunch is 237.22 per member x

Although I brought the subject of averages up...it"s not really a meaningful statistic.

It"s the number of users covering each "band" of posting ranges.  I"ve got over 3500 but I"m hardly representative.

If you could tell us how many users there are for say:

50+
100+
200+
300+

I think that would be more relevant.

My guess is that the VAST majority have less than 200.

Factor in the ones who posted a lot a long time ago (Kinfishi) and then went away...and the number of possible user able to participate would go WAAAY down.

This is detail and as you said yourself a couple of times earlier Paulie, not really on topic atm.

So far the vast majority seem in favour.  Anyone against?

I"ll put myself in the stocks for the rotton Tomatoes!

My possibly outdated personal view is that I"m not keen on staking at all. Surely an APAT consideration needs to be how to grow players skills and to me Bank-roll mgt is a key skill. I worry that staking is seen as some sort of short cut to playing higher, I just dont believe its sustainable in the long run.

Just to be clear I"m ok with % swapping amongst friends its fun and I guess if you do bink a sat into a biggy, selling some off aint bad either.

[Geo]

For members who have posted > 10 then the average amongst that happy bunch is 237.22 per member x

Although I brought the subject of averages up...it"s not really a meaningful statistic.

It"s the number of users covering each "band" of posting ranges.  I"ve got over 3500 but I"m hardly representative.

If you could tell us how many users there are for say:

50+
100+
200+
300+

I think that would be more relevant.

My guess is that the VAST majority have less than 200.

Factor in the ones who posted a lot a long time ago (Kinfishi) and then went away...and the number of possible user able to participate would go WAAAY down.

This is detail and as you said yourself a couple of times earlier Paulie, not really on topic atm.

So far the vast majority seem in favour.  Anyone against?

I"ll put myself in the stocks for the rotton Tomatoes!

My possibly outdated personal view is that I"m not keen on staking at all. Surely an APAT consideration needs to be how to grow players skills and to me Bank-roll mgt is a key skill. I worry that staking is seen as some sort of short cut to playing higher, I just dont believe its sustainable in the long run.

Just to be clear I"m ok with % swapping amongst friends its fun and I guess if you do bink a sat into a biggy, selling some off aint bad either.

Would bankroll management not also include costs for travelling and accommodation when related to APAT events?

Living in Scotland for example hinders the amount of events I and others can attend throughout the year. It may well be the case for other areas also.

Peronally I think the staking boards could work well within APAT. I have used blonde as both a stakee and staker. In some cases the individual has satted in and the staking actually helps them cover the additional costs as noted above. This has never really caused any problems that I"ve seen.

This year I am unlikely to be able to attend any events apart from Scotland, however I have kept an interest by buying pieces of action from others.

Geo

[AJDUK]

I have wanted to stake John Murray a couple of times but money wasn"t involved  

+1

[Fatcatstu]

I have wanted to stake John Murray a couple of times but money wasn"t involved  

+1

stop trying to raise your number of votes so you can get staked!!!

[MikeSlee]

I think this would be a very good idea.  I am not always in a position to take part in all the tourneys that I want, and have often considered perhaps staking another.  Doing this in a controlled manner through the APAT forums would be great.

Plus the fact I have large piles of cash to invest in a suitable poker player  

[MikeSlee]

I think this would be a very good idea.  I am not always in a position to take part in all the tourneys that I want, and have often considered perhaps staking another.  Doing this in a controlled manner through the APAT forums would be great.

Plus the fact I have large piles of cash to invest in a suitable poker player  

The bit about the large piles of cash, may not be entirely true

[MikeSlee]

I think this would be a very good idea.  I am not always in a position to take part in all the tourneys that I want, and have often considered perhaps staking another.  Doing this in a controlled manner through the APAT forums would be great.

Plus the fact I have large piles of cash to invest in a suitable poker player  

The bit about the large piles of cash, may not be entirely true

and this is not a completely obvious attempt to up my post count without just putting LOL or +1 in a post

[fandango]

I think this would be a very good idea.  I am not always in a position to take part in all the tourneys that I want, and have often considered perhaps staking another.  Doing this in a controlled manner through the APAT forums would be great.

Plus the fact I have large piles of cash to invest in a suitable poker player  

The bit about the large piles of cash, may not be entirely true

and this is not a completely obvious attempt to up my post count without just putting LOL or +1 in a post

282 more to go  

[KarmaDope]

Completely in favour.

As long as people realise that they are private deals and APAT aren"t involved in any way at all.