APAT Bunch Of Fives

[HOLDorFOLD]

Whilst I agree about things being annoying regards late reg, no updates etc, Lets"s remember that this is totally out of character for Leigh and the APAT team.

If there is a reason that there has been no-one posting from APAT for the last 3 days, lets just hope its not for a reason that is bigger than poker, that makes us all look a bit stupid for bitching, when things finally come to light.

Just waiting patiently, myself

Think that"s a bit of a harsh blanket statement there tbh.

The majority of posters expressed disappointment at there being no late reg when advertised as such ... a BOSS error, not an APAT member of staff error.

Myself and a few others posted disappointment at that bit (did not bitch), in fact some praised and like the way there are different variations of poker each night, learning a new game with APAT members to make for a good evening of fun    

I certainly am enjoying this set of weekly tournaments. I do not pre-reg as work commitments cannot guarantee I will get home in time before I am blinded out, so will play if I get home in time ... do not have the bankroll at the moment to pre-reg and sit out of most of the game. So my thoughts on tonight were of disappointment at not being able to play, whilst emphathising with those whose were near the top spots on how gutted they probably feel ... hardly bitching.

[Swinebag]

Whilst I agree about things being annoying regards late reg, no updates etc, Lets"s remember that this is totally out of character for Leigh and the APAT team.

If there is a reason that there has been no-one posting from APAT for the last 3 days, lets just hope its not for a reason that is bigger than poker, that makes us all look a bit stupid for bitching, when things finally come to light.

Just waiting patiently, myself

Think that"s a bit of a harsh blanket statement there tbh.

The majority of posters expressed disappointment at there being no late reg when advertised as such ... a BOSS error, not an APAT member of staff error.

Myself and a few others posted disappointment at that bit (did not bitch), in fact some praised and like the way there are different variations of poker each night, learning a new game with APAT members to make for a good evening of fun    

I certainly am enjoying this set of weekly tournaments. I do not pre-reg as work commitments cannot guarantee I will get home in time before I am blinded out, so will play if I get home in time ... do not have the bankroll at the moment to pre-reg and sit out of most of the game. So my thoughts on tonight were of disappointment at not being able to play, whilst emphathising with those whose were near the top spots on how gutted they probably feel ... hardly bitching.

yep, bitching does sound a bit too harsh and you are right, most posts are expressing disappointment.

However, as highlighted by you, that is a small part of my post and not the main point. The main point I was trying to get across (badly it seems) is that I hope everything is allright behind the scenes, as this period of forum silence from them is not normal.

[Waz1892]

very unusually, and your post has me thinking.....not sure what it could be though

(+hidden) has been in and out of this thread.

But eerrily quite, quite un-nerving now you"ve mentioned it  

[HOLDorFOLD]

Whilst I agree about things being annoying regards late reg, no updates etc, Lets"s remember that this is totally out of character for Leigh and the APAT team.

If there is a reason that there has been no-one posting from APAT for the last 3 days, lets just hope its not for a reason that is bigger than poker, that makes us all look a bit stupid for bitching, when things finally come to light.

Just waiting patiently, myself

Think that"s a bit of a harsh blanket statement there tbh.

The majority of posters expressed disappointment at there being no late reg when advertised as such ... a BOSS error, not an APAT member of staff error.

Myself and a few others posted disappointment at that bit (did not bitch), in fact some praised and like the way there are different variations of poker each night, learning a new game with APAT members to make for a good evening of fun    

I certainly am enjoying this set of weekly tournaments. I do not pre-reg as work commitments cannot guarantee I will get home in time before I am blinded out, so will play if I get home in time ... do not have the bankroll at the moment to pre-reg and sit out of most of the game. So my thoughts on tonight were of disappointment at not being able to play, whilst emphathising with those whose were near the top spots on how gutted they probably feel ... hardly bitching.

yep, bitching does sound a bit too harsh and you are right, most posts are expressing disappointment.

However, as highlighted by you, that is a small part of my post and not the main point. The main point I was trying to get across (badly it seems) is that I hope everything is allright behind the scenes, as this period of forum silence from them is not normal.

I hear you and thought the same thing earlier (as others probably did too, as it"s unusual for leagues not be updated). That bit came across ... it was just a bit marred by the highlighted bit ;-)

Apologies back at you though  

[Matt D]

Hi everyone, I"ve just got in, so catching up on this thread.

Firstly, I"m very sorry about the lack of league updates. That is 100% my fault. Leigh jetted off on holiday yesterday and left me in charge of updating the tables, and although it"s on my "to do" list for today, I missed it and it totally slipped my mind

The late reg problem is a Boss error, and I share the annoyance/infuriation with that, especially as this isn"t the first time they"ve set up our tournaments incorrectly. I need to contact them to ask how the hell it happened, and to make sure other games are set up correctly in this respect moving forwards.

I haven"t read all the posts in this thread yet, so please bear with me. Will publish tables first, then get back to them.

[Matt D]

Just a quick update re: late reg.

On Boss late reg. comes into effect if there are more than 7 players registered (or left) in a tournament. If there are 7 or less then there is no late reg.

A quick look at the lobby with tonight"s results, shows just 7 players were registered at the time the tourney started, meaning there would be no late reg. This is correct.

It"s also worth bearing in mind, that if 8 players registered then there would be late reg. However, if at any point the number of players hits 7 (or below) then late reg. ends.

[Outlander]

Just a quick update re: late reg.

On Boss late reg. comes into effect if there are more than 7 players registered (or left) in a tournament. If there are 7 or less then there is no late reg.

A quick look at the lobby with tonight"s results, shows just 7 players were registered at the time the tourney started, meaning there would be no late reg. This is correct.

It"s also worth bearing in mind, that if 8 players registered then there would be late reg. However, if at any point the number of players hits 7 (or below) then late reg. ends.

Appreciate that now Matt but this was not made clear before hand so is very frustrating.... I managed to escape from work a bit earlier tonight coz I was keen to play and I could have registered in time had I known this was the case but as there was late reg and I wanted to have something to eat before registering I didnt register in time. If the lobby reflected this Boss stipulation all would have been clear. All it has done though is made the last event pointless with no bearing on league outcome when it seems there was the interest, which could have provided a good climax to the league. As much as I enjoyed taking part it certainly wont encourage me to play in subsequent weeks.

[MintTrav]

Play them in a different order next week.... How about Heads Up instead of one of the 5 or 7 card...?

No, keep them. If you want to drop something, lose the PLO.

I agree with reversing the order though.

[Matt D]

Point taken re: late reg. We have posted the rules on late reg. on (almost) every online event we"ve run. However, for this series the text just says "Late registration is available in these tournaments (as per Boss Network Rules)".

"Boss Networks Rules" state that a minimum number of players are required in order for late reg. to be activated. I agree this could have been worded more clearly on the "Bunch of Fives" rules page.

To slightly complicate matters, Boss seem to have increased the minimum from 7 to 8 players recently, without notifying us. I will get Boss to confirm the late reg. rules, and I"ll post them up in a prominent place on the forum - e.g. a sticky thread - or make sure that all tourneys that have late reg. have this info on the corresponding forum thread, or in the software lobby itself (if there is room), or both.

[Outlander]

Play them in a different order next week.... How about Heads Up instead of one of the 5 or 7 card...?

No, keep them. If you want to drop something, lose the PLO.

I agree with reversing the order though.

Also agree... having more popular formats at end would probably keep more people interested.. but part of the fun is playing different games... and HU means a lot of waiting around... PLO Hi/Low confused the hell out of me but at least now I"ve given it a go and will have a better idea next time (although I"m not entirely sure about that)

[MintTrav]

Point taken re: late reg. We have posted the rules on late reg. on (almost) every online event we"ve run. However, for this series the text just says "Late registration is available in these tournaments (as per Boss Network Rules)".

"Boss Networks Rules" state that a minimum number of players are required in order for late reg. to be activated. I agree this could have been worded more clearly on the "Bunch of Fives" rules page.

To slightly complicate matters, Boss seem to have increased the minimum from 7 to 8 players recently, without notifying us. I will get Boss to confirm the late reg. rules, and I"ll post them up in a prominent place on the forum - e.g. a sticky thread - or make sure that all tourneys that have late reg. have this info on the corresponding forum thread, or in the software lobby itself (if there is room), or both.

A lot of people find it a stretch to get home and organised by 7o"c. As late reg is causing problems, why don"t we scrap it and just start at 8pm?

[Outlander]

Point taken re: late reg. We have posted the rules on late reg. on (almost) every online event we"ve run. However, for this series the text just says "Late registration is available in these tournaments (as per Boss Network Rules)".

Dont remember seeing bit about "as per Boss network rules" but I"m sure you"re right and it"s there. Personally I"m not a fan of late reg, although it has helped me be able to take part this week until tonight when my unfamiliarity with Boss (as I only take part in APAT sats and very rarely on DTD) meant I missed out on playing. Think the Bunch of Fives is great, want to support Apat wherever possible, but I"m not happy when things arent clear. As 7pm start is difficult for me the experience tonight means I wont make an effort to play in future weeks, coz I feel you cant have late reg for one event and not all the others - another reason not to include HU. Put back the start time to 8pm and scrap late reg I say... oh and change the order of tournies to keep more people interested.

[Matt D]

Point taken re: late reg. We have posted the rules on late reg. on (almost) every online event we"ve run. However, for this series the text just says "Late registration is available in these tournaments (as per Boss Network Rules)".

"Boss Networks Rules" state that a minimum number of players are required in order for late reg. to be activated. I agree this could have been worded more clearly on the "Bunch of Fives" rules page.

To slightly complicate matters, Boss seem to have increased the minimum from 7 to 8 players recently, without notifying us. I will get Boss to confirm the late reg. rules, and I"ll post them up in a prominent place on the forum - e.g. a sticky thread - or make sure that all tourneys that have late reg. have this info on the corresponding forum thread, or in the software lobby itself (if there is room), or both.

A lot of people find it a stretch to get home and organised by 7o"c. As late reg is causing problems, why don"t we scrap it and just start at 8pm?

Good idea.

Though, if we start at 8pm the game will run on 1 hour later obviously (all other things being equal).

The end times of this week"s games were (number of runners in brackets):

Monday: Pot Limit Omaha (34) = 10.17pm
Tuesday: Hold'em (33) = 9.54pm
Wednesday: 7 Card Stud (28) = 11.26pm
Thursday: Pot Limit Omaha H/L (24) = 10.25pm
Friday: 5 Card Draw (7) = 10pm

If we move everything an hour later that could mean some games run on a bit too late. Though, we could also look at altering the blind structures? e.g Does 4 and a half hours for a 28 person 7-card-stud game does seem a little long?...

[Matt D]

Point taken re: late reg. We have posted the rules on late reg. on (almost) every online event we"ve run. However, for this series the text just says "Late registration is available in these tournaments (as per Boss Network Rules)".

Dont remember seeing bit about "as per Boss network rules" but I"m sure you"re right and it"s there.

It"s listed towards the bottom of the first post on this thread: http://www.apat.com/forum/index.php?topic=12503.0

Put back the start time to 8pm and scrap late reg I say... oh and change the order of tournies to keep more people interested.

2 votes now for 8pm starts and scrapping late reg.

edit: 3 votes (missed one from earlier in thread).

[Matt D]

Leaderboard for week 2: http://www.apat.com/forum/index.php?topic=12548