Queens in the Big Blind in Portugal

[PHIL_TC]

OK.. never posted a hand before so flame away Has been bugging me a little this one.

The scene.. its Portugal. I"m fairly hungover. Only on second beer of the day taking it steady away.

Started with 10k, down to around 8.5k. Few levels in and its 150/300.

Fairly standard table to date, no one getting out of line however seems the Portugese seem to love a call.

I"m in the big blind and do my usual at glancing at one card which is a red queen. Then watch what occurs at the table.

UTG+1 limps, UTG+2 limps, Cutoff raises to 1500 playing around 11-12k. Fold to me. Peak at the second card which is another queen.

What do we do?

[duke3016]

Shove his sorry ar$e and hit the Irish bar at the marina - job done.....  

[jbworldwide]

Raise to 3325 because you are pro

[Fatcatstu]

Use the C word.

I raise him to 4k, with the intention of getting the rest in no matter what.

Infact.... is a shove pre in this spot terrible?

Definately use the C word tho.

[MintTrav]

Unlucky.

[Waz1892]

As it is you, double check you"ve not looked at the same queen first....


Then re-raise like a trooper to kill it there

[AMRN]

With two limpers and a 5x raise in front...... including the blinds, I make that 8.5bb in the middle, and you have around 27bbs behind - shove and take it down = 32% stack increase.  Get called and win = lovely. Get called and lose = cooler, and more time at the bar.

Worst case scenario is raise small, get called, and then play an Ace high flop out of position with nearly half your stack in the middle already.

For me it"s either a shove, a shove, or sometimes it might also be a shove.

[Jon MW]

With two limpers and a 5x raise in front...... including the blinds, I make that 8.5bb in the middle, and you have around 27bbs behind - shove and take it down = 32% stack increase.  Get called and win = lovely. Get called and lose = cooler, and more time at the bar.

Worst case scenario is raise small, get called, and then play an Ace high flop out of position with nearly half your stack in the middle already.

For me it"s either a shove, a shove, or sometimes it might also be a shove.

agreed with that stack size, those cards and that action I don"t see how you could do anything other than shove

[Des]

It"s an easy dwell, supported by a throaty "soon".  

[SirPercival]

As you claim to be at a "standard" table I will assume you mean standard for that event*

So the protocol would be to tell some guy opposite you what you have and ask for his advice, in Portugese of course!

* given that you also claim to be only "fairly hungover" this would suggest I should assume nothing.

[Curlarge]

As you claim to be at a "standard" table I will assume you mean standard for that event*

So the protocol would be to tell some guy opposite you what you have and ask for his advice, in Portugese of course!

* given that you also claim to be only "fairly hungover" this would suggest I should assume nothing.

It was hardly a "standard" table, I was on it

[WYoung83]

Pretty standard shove here. A 3 bet would put in 40-50% of your stack so get it in now. A shove here is not terrible. Clicking it back and seeing 2 callers with a flop of Axx would be terrible.

[duke3016]

Shove his sorry ar$e and hit the Irish bar at the marina - job done.....  

see I know these things

[AAroddersAA]

Fist pump about 3 times, high five the dealer and bet all of your discs.

Phil, this is a REALLY easy shove mate and it ain"t even close.

Money in the pot means we are adding more than 30% to our stack and we crush the range of the raiser. I don"t really like the size of the raise and would be happier if it was smaller but whatever, if he has AA or KK so be it you just can"t fold here and therefore have to shove.

Limper"s could turn up with AA I know but are more likely to decide to hero call with 88-TT imo.

What do you think the raiser calls you with? If it is just JJ+ and AK you are about 50/50 to win when called and have a LOAD of fold equity. For shoving to be wrong you would almost have to know one of them has AA or KK.

You probably get about 50/50 folds in this spot and when the limpers call their range is smaller pairs a lot more than it is AA or KK, AK and AQ may even make an appearance. The raiser calls with worse as well. probably the same sort of range as above.

Pretty standard shove here. A 3 bet would put in 40-50% of your stack so get it in now. A shove here is not terrible. Clicking it back and seeing 2 callers with a flop of Axx would be terrible.

Clicking it back and seeing any flop (even Q-9-4 rainbow) is terrible.

[Swinebag]

Have we shoved yet?