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Erimus

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Re: The Official APAT UK PingPong Championships, Sunday 27th January in Luton!
« Reply #15 on: January 04, 2013, 19:30:30 PM »
I would be up for this, think I am the 12th, only experience being played using bookends on parents dining room table with a golf ball, should be enough I would imagine.

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Re: The Official APAT UK PingPong Championships, Sunday 27th January in Luton!
« Reply #16 on: January 04, 2013, 19:56:35 PM »
please count me in i will dig out the old bat  ;D

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Re: The Official APAT UK PingPong Championships, Sunday 27th January in Luton!
« Reply #17 on: January 04, 2013, 19:57:52 PM »
sorry never played the game before hmmm of course i meant cue  ;D

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Re: The Official APAT UK PingPong Championships, Sunday 27th January in Luton!
« Reply #18 on: January 04, 2013, 20:01:01 PM »
haha :) stuck you down Brian.

We"ve now 12, so I"ve increased max players to 16.

The format I"m thinking of is:

4 leagues of 4 players, everyone plays each other in their league in a round-robin format. The top 2 of each league (so 8 players) go through to the knockout stages.

8 players (Quarter Final) > 4 players (Semi Final) > 2 players (Final).

For the Round-Robin/QF/SF stages we"ll play "Best of 3", then moving to "Best of 5" for the final. Note: It"s first to 11 points wins a game, and you can win on your or your opponents serve (you each get 2 serves, then swap). To make it easier to remember, whoever loses the first game serves first in the second game and so on. (we"ll toss a coin for initial server and starting end, and swap ends after each game).

Right, time to do the math...

Based on 16 players, we"ll be playing:

6 matches in each of 4 leagues = 24 matches * "best of 3" matches = (average of 2.5 games a match) 60 games.

A game takes 4 minutes on average, so 60 x 4 = 4 hours(!). However, if we can commandeer 2 tables, that means 2 hours.

The rest of the tourney will take a maximum of:

4 x QF (12 games = 48 mins / 2 tables = 24 mins)
2 x SF (6 games = 24 min / 2 tables = 12 mins)
1 x F (5 games = 20 min / 1 table = 20 min)

24+12+20 = 56 mins.

Total tourney time = 2hrs 56mins. Start at 10am, finish at 1pm. (that"s cutting it a bit fine with any inevitable delays, so I suggest a disgustingly early "first game" time of 9.30am!!, to ensure everyone gets back to day2 of the APAT Team Champs in time).

Note: This is just an initial format idea, so is subject to change.
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Re: The Official APAT UK PingPong Championships, Sunday 27th January in Luton!
« Reply #19 on: January 04, 2013, 20:02:51 PM »

sorry never played the game before hmmm of course i meant cue  ;D


lol, your nickname worries me! Are you an ex (or current) PingPong pro?
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Re: The Official APAT UK PingPong Championships, Sunday 27th January in Luton!
« Reply #20 on: January 04, 2013, 20:04:23 PM »
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Re: The Official APAT UK PingPong Championships, Sunday 27th January in Luton!
« Reply #21 on: January 04, 2013, 20:50:32 PM »
me me me!!

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Re: The Official APAT UK PingPong Championships, Sunday 27th January in Luton!
« Reply #22 on: January 04, 2013, 20:52:23 PM »
Added :)

There"s now just 2 spaces left! Though I"ll open a reserve list after that, or maybe even increase capacity again!! :D

Going to contact the Luton Table Tennis Association to see if they can help :)
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Re: The Official APAT UK PingPong Championships, Sunday 27th January in Luton!
« Reply #23 on: January 04, 2013, 20:55:40 PM »
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Re: (Unofficial) APAT UK PingPong Championships, Sunday 27th January in Luton!
« Reply #24 on: January 04, 2013, 20:57:18 PM »


i"ve seen you play


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lol, cheeky! :D (I blame the wind!).

How good are you - have you played a lot?!


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Re: The Official APAT UK PingPong Championships, Sunday 27th January in Luton!
« Reply #25 on: January 04, 2013, 22:09:01 PM »
Do I need to find a team for the poker or can I just come for the table-tennis?
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Re: The Official APAT UK PingPong Championships, Sunday 27th January in Luton!
« Reply #26 on: January 04, 2013, 22:21:12 PM »

Do I need to find a team for the poker or can I just come for the table-tennis?


You could just come for the table-tennis. Quite a long way for potentially 3 games though... unless you"re a pro on the sly?...
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Re: The Official APAT UK PingPong Championships, Sunday 27th January in Luton!
« Reply #27 on: January 04, 2013, 22:28:41 PM »


Do I need to find a team for the poker or can I just come for the table-tennis?


You could just come for the table-tennis. Quite a long way for potentially 3 games though... unless you"re a pro on the sly?...


Depends - it might be worth it. How much is the prize-pool?
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Re: The Official APAT UK PingPong Championships, Sunday 27th January in Luton!
« Reply #28 on: January 04, 2013, 23:11:05 PM »
11-0 = 21.8 secs per point

11-10 = 11.42 sec per point

The average being 16.62 per point, giving you around 15 point game as an average  11-4.

4 minutes seems short per game when you consider,

chat/banter inbetween
mis-serves
ball behind player fetching
what is the score enquires
final league postions
QF set up games

just my thoughts.  Great idea though!
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Re: The Official APAT UK PingPong Championships, Sunday 27th January in Luton!
« Reply #29 on: January 04, 2013, 23:25:00 PM »
Thanks Waz.

I based the timings on a match I played vs a mate on Tuesday night...

We ended up 13-11 in games, and it took about 75 mins. Most games were very close. That gives just over 3 minutes a game, so I rounded it to 4minutes in my calculations to be generous.

I think most games will end up 2-0 to one player, as there may be some difference in skills. Also, a lot of points can last just 2 or 3 shots, or sometimes even a foul serve - there is no "second serve".

But... I may ditch the "best of 3" for the Round Robin stages and make them either:

a) "best of 2 games" and award 2 points for a win, and 1 point for a draw.

or

b) make it just a 1 game match. (this will speed things up considerably, but might also mean some players don"t feel they"ve played enough...)

Hard to please everyone, and fit the game into a 3 hour window. (I think 10am to 1pm is about the best time to run this, 9.30am start is just a bit toooo early)...

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