The Official APAT UK PingPong Championships, Sunday 27th January in Luton!

[Matt D]

BEST OF 1.....best of three and u wont play much poker

BO1 and you"re playing hardly any table tennis either though...

Also, 10 minutes a game?! Are you proposing a tea break after every 5 points? :p

[Fatcatstu]

BEST OF 1.....best of three and u wont play much poker

BO1 and you"re playing hardly any table tennis either though...

Also, 10 minutes a game?! Are you proposing a tea beer break after every 5 points? :p

FYP

[AJDUK]

Started at max 10, then 12 then 16 now 18 jeez if only seasons 1 to 4 apat"s could have been so open ended about numbers  

BO3 pleeeeeeeeease to justify getting up at the crack

[Matt D]

Started at max 10, then 12 then 16 now 18 jeez if only seasons 1 to 4 apat"s could have been so open ended about numbers  

lol It"s still 16 atm

BO3 pleeeeeeeeease to justify getting up at the crack

If we have e.g. 4 leagues of 4 players each, then it will definitely be BO3. Meaning you get to play between 6 and 9 sets in the knock-out stages.

If we"ve 2 leagues of 8 players each, then it would just be BO1. You"d still get to play a guaranteed 7 sets, so not that much difference, and could be easier to organise that way.

Haven"t decided the best way yet... Though, I"m swaying towards 2 leagues as makes it easier to organise when people don"t turn up, and makes sense if we can get 2 tables (both tables will be constantly in use, with less sitting around waiting).

[Fatcatstu]

I am bringing some sort of alcohol with me. You have been warned :p

[MintTrav]

I"m swaying towards 2 leagues as makes it easier to organise when people don"t turn up, and makes sense if we can get 2 tables (both tables will be constantly in use, with less sitting around waiting).

I"ve been trying to figure that one out, but you"ve got me stumped. Won"t both tables be constantly in use during the preliminary rounds either way? And if you play roughly the same number of games, why would there be less sitting around waiting? Am I missing something?

[BOINGBLITZ]

Well if it is only 16 it looks like I am missing something.

[Matt D]

Well if it is only 16 it looks like I am missing something.

That"s not the final decision, just that atm it"s 16.

There is 100% bound to be some drop-outs before the game anyway, and a bunch of no-shows on the day itself. There"s already been one drop-out, that I need to knock off the list above.

[AMRN]

I think you are under-estimating the amount of time that will be taken up by fetching errant balls, arguing discussing rules/formats/playing order/etc. Squeezing into a 3 hour timeframe is overly ambitious imo - you need to have more contingency room..... create your structure to aim for two hours, and it will probably run for three.

If the first stage is a round robin, there really is no need for BO3 games.... BO1 is sufficient. To alleviate the perceived negative impact of BO1, you could switch the games to 15 points per game with 3 serves per handover, as opposed to 11 points with 2 serves.   When you reach the KO stage, you then switch to 11 point games with 2 serves, and change to BO3

[Matt D]

How"s about:

Going back to... 4 leagues of 4. Each player plays 2 sets vs. each other. = 3+2+1 = 6sets x 2 = 12sets. x 4 leagues = 48sets. 1 point per set you win.

48sets x 4 mins = 192mins / 2 tables = 96 mins.

Then add QF/SF/F:
4 x 2.5 (10) + 2 x 2.5 (5) = 15 sets x 4 mins = 60 mins / 2 tables = 30 mins + Final 2.5 sets x 4 mins = 10 mins.

96 + 70 = 166 mins.

We could arrange it so that I referree all the games on table 1 that I"m not playing in (and make sure everyone plays fast, knows what the score is, doesn"t argue etc.), whilst someone else does the same for table 2.

There are sure to be no-shows, so this gives us plenty of time imo.

Just waiting for Luton TableTennis association to get back to me with a venue suggestion.

[AJDUK]

Sounds like a good compromise to me

[pokerpops]

How"s about:

Going back to... 4 leagues of 4. Each player plays 2 sets vs. each other. = 3+2+1 = 6sets x 2 = 12sets. x 4 leagues = 48sets. 1 point per set you win.

48sets x 4 mins = 192mins / 2 tables = 96 mins.

Then add QF/SF/F:
4 x 2.5 (10) + 2 x 2.5 (5) = 15 sets x 4 mins = 60 mins / 2 tables = 30 mins + Final 2.5 sets x 4 mins = 10 mins.

96 + 70 = 166 mins.

We could arrange it so that I referree all the games on table 1 that I"m not playing in (and make sure everyone plays fast, knows what the score is, doesn"t argue etc.), whilst someone else does the same for table 2.

There are sure to be no-shows, so this gives us plenty of time imo.

Just waiting for Luton TableTennis association to get back to me with a venue suggestion.

One Umpires a Table Tennis match...

http://aettu.btck.co.uk/About%20us

[Matt D]

How"s about:

Going back to... 4 leagues of 4. Each player plays 2 sets vs. each other. = 3+2+1 = 6sets x 2 = 12sets. x 4 leagues = 48sets. 1 point per set you win.

48sets x 4 mins = 192mins / 2 tables = 96 mins.

Then add QF/SF/F:
4 x 2.5 (10) + 2 x 2.5 (5) = 15 sets x 4 mins = 60 mins / 2 tables = 30 mins + Final 2.5 sets x 4 mins = 10 mins.

96 + 70 = 166 mins.

We could arrange it so that I referree all the games on table 1 that I"m not playing in (and make sure everyone plays fast, knows what the score is, doesn"t argue etc.), whilst someone else does the same for table 2.

There are sure to be no-shows, so this gives us plenty of time imo.

Just waiting for Luton TableTennis association to get back to me with a venue suggestion.

One Umpires a Table Tennis match...

http://aettu.btck.co.uk/About%20us

Bah!  

Can I have a volunteer to umpire table #2 please?

[AMRN]

Can I have a volunteer to umpire table #2 please?

yup, no worries

[Matt D]

Awesome, thanks Steve.

Quick update: I"ve just heard back from the Luton & District Table Tennis Association, who have recommended me Vauxhall Recreation Centre in Gipsy Lane.

As you can see, it"s just a stone"s throw away: http://goo.gl/maps/59rYu

Someone from VRC is going to get back to me with prices, number of tables, etc.

Will keep you posted.