[George2Loose]

Old guy opens utg. I would fold AQ unless it was David Amos ofc.

[TheSnapper]

Not played live poker much recently but I"m not 3bet calling AQ for this much against an old guy opening 3x+ from UTG without a really good reason. As played the 3bet size should either be much smaller (say 23k) or you should jam. Personally I may flat this but folding pre is also fine.

This does depend on any specific reads though, if he doesn"t cbet frequently then flatting pre is probably best

^ this

If we expect him to fold, its a 3b bluff right? If so would you expect 23k will be equally successful as 37k, actually as successful as 30k because really 37k is more than a tad on the large size.

What was the thinking behind that larger sizing?

Am I missing something here though, we face a 3x open utg from an unknown "old guy" how is this a good spot to 3b call for 28 bigs with AQs?

Open range is?

AA-88,AKo-AJo,KQo,AKs-ATs,KQs maybe?  more importantly villains 4b range is super tight especially since....

he expressed a desire to "not get involved with the bigger stacks"

Is it a he thinks I think yada yada level.

[pokerpops]

Everybody is assuming the "old guy" is competent or nitty.

I didn"t make that assumption I took his opening size to suggest that he wasn"t so good. I actually thought AQs was enough to get it in with in this comp vs this guy, but would have happily taken a fold.

If he folds 50% and ships with 1010+ and AJ+ against which I"m 45%....
I"m 35% against the much tighter QQ+ AQ+ with a higher %age of folds that still can"t be so bad?

I jammed the flop anyway and as it happened he had the mighty K 10 off

A on turn and K on river

[George2Loose]

Well in that case check flop, jam turn

[pokerpops]

Well in that case check flop, jam turn

[TheSnapper]

Everybody is assuming the "old guy" is competent or nitty.

They more often than not are nitty and imho that's a more reliable read than...

I took his opening size to suggest that he wasn"t so good.

Might villain also make that conclusion from your 3b size?

[pokerpops]

Everybody is assuming the "old guy" is competent or nitty.

They more often than not are nitty and imho that's a more reliable read than...

I took his opening size to suggest that he wasn"t so good.

I"m not so sure about the "old guys are nits" stereotype - I know it doesn"t apply to me, nor to a lot of the seniors who frequent DTD - have you played Greek Jack or Ali Mallu?

Might villain also make that conclusion from your 3b size?

touche

he wasn"t too old to whoop when the K appeared on the river to counter my binked Ace

in any event he obviously outplayed me in some style or other

[TheSnapper]

I"m not so sure about the "old guys are nits" stereotype - I know it doesn"t apply to me, nor to a lot of the seniors who frequent DTD - have you played Greek Jack or Ali Mallu?

I"m not trying to beat on you David, just trying to make the point that we need to assign a range before we make a decision, all we have to work with here is....

UTG raise, due some respect.

"Old guy" somewhat likely we should range tighter.

Villains previous comment, could be construed as "won"t be light" or " is likely to fold often if 3b"

3x open raise size, again could be construed as "weak" or "strong" but most likely villain is a dinosaur and its just the size he uses cos he doesn"t know 2.25x is the new 3x.

The bottom line is, this is a marginal spot in a field were I suspect you have an edge. That villain shows up with KTo is irrelevent.

[pokerpops]

Old guy opens utg. I would fold AQ unless it was David Amos ofc.

;-)