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Re: Event #1 WCOAP World Amateur Team Championship
« Reply #45 on: February 14, 2013, 23:20:42 PM »


It"s a shame some teams are scratching around for players, whilst I have to turn down so many who are desperate to play. Need to get the English applicants looking at old family trees to discover long lost heritage to some of these countries that are struggling to field teams.   ;D


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« Reply #46 on: February 14, 2013, 23:28:17 PM »
Regarding the 16 teams and possibilities..

If a certain country which has not been perhaps invited say China for instance, and a team that has invited to play and are indeed struggling to find 5 players.. I"m sure there a good deal of local Chinese players whom play at DTD would like to play? Why not contact DTD and see if they could put some "feelers" out to some of the regulars?

Just a thought as it would be a shame not to get full quota of teams..

Edit.. Reading this back to myself it sounds rather confusing to me, but I blame it on the Cava * hic* .. But I know what I mean!!
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Re: Event #1 WCOAP World Amateur Team Championship
« Reply #47 on: February 19, 2013, 20:36:36 PM »
Being a Captain is a big responsibily. Yes i hate scratching around for players every year. This year has been tough with the addition of another player per team. Each year Des comes to me with those big puppy dog eyes and asks me to take on the challange of getting a team together for Canada. Ive never turned him down. How can you turn down the honor of representing your Country? I love my country and I am greatful each year I am asked, thanks Des. So I will call around, I will harrass my facebook friends, I will ask everyone I know to ask their friends. It is very difficult and it gets very tense the closer the tournament gets. But the other Captains have it worse than me. They have to say no to friends and family and upset alot of people, they then have to have faith that they have picked not only the deserving but people who will perform on the day. So with all that in mind, I wish all of them the best of luck. Team Canada will see you at the tables.
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Re: Event #1 WCOAP World Amateur Team Championship
« Reply #48 on: February 19, 2013, 22:10:31 PM »

As much as it pains me to say it, maybe a North American team that combines USA/Canada?  Might be the only way forward with those two considering the hassle each year.


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Re: Event #1 WCOAP World Amateur Team Championship
« Reply #49 on: February 19, 2013, 22:14:27 PM »

I"m sure that India could submit a team but be expensive for them to travel

There are a lot of Indian people who live in England seems like there could be a team put together...

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Re: Event #1 WCOAP World Amateur Team Championship
« Reply #50 on: February 19, 2013, 22:19:22 PM »
Do we have a confirmed structure for the Team Event?
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« Reply #51 on: February 21, 2013, 22:37:15 PM »

Do we have a confirmed structure for the Team Event?


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Re: Event #1 WCOAP World Amateur Team Championship
« Reply #53 on: February 22, 2013, 20:33:40 PM »
I acknowledge I"m speaking from a point of view that it has affected me massively,

Is it right that a non-main variant of poker in PLO takes up 40% of the Team Event games?
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Re: Event #1 WCOAP World Amateur Team Championship
« Reply #54 on: February 23, 2013, 10:08:11 AM »

I acknowledge I"m speaking from a point of view that it has affected me massively,

Is it right that a non-main variant of poker in PLO takes up 40% of the Team Event games?


I completely understand where you"re coming from Warren, however I"m not sure that PLO is considered a "non-main" variant of poker any more - in my opinion, PLO is now considered to a be a core variant alongisde NLHE, and is not really a "mixed" game any more.

Personally, I would support an even wider variance of mixed games within the Team Event. Yes 40% of the published profile is PLO..... but from the opposite standpoint, is it right that such a prestigious event should be made up of 60% NLHE?  With a much wider mix, the team that wins would generally be the team that is able to dominate across multiple disciplines and variants, rather than just conventional NLHE. I suspect a major problem with mixing it up though would be dealer availability and cost.

Interesting discussion though...


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Re: Event #1 WCOAP World Amateur Team Championship
« Reply #55 on: February 23, 2013, 11:30:37 AM »


I acknowledge I"m speaking from a point of view that it has affected me massively,

Is it right that a non-main variant of poker in PLO takes up 40% of the Team Event games?


I completely understand where you"re coming from Warren, however I"m not sure that PLO is considered a "non-main" variant of poker any more - in my opinion, PLO is now considered to a be a core variant alongisde NLHE, and is not really a "mixed" game any more.

Personally, I would support an even wider variance of mixed games within the Team Event. Yes 40% of the published profile is PLO..... but from the opposite standpoint, is it right that such a prestigious event should be made up of 60% NLHE?  With a much wider mix, the team that wins would generally be the team that is able to dominate across multiple disciplines and variants, rather than just conventional NLHE. I suspect a major problem with mixing it up though would be dealer availability and cost.

Interesting discussion though...




Understand the flip-side view that 60% is taken up by 1 variant in a World Series championship, however whilst PLO is I agree the the most popular of the other variants by the very nature of it not being the main form it automatically excludes the majority of poker players that would like to rep there country.

Those that love the other variants have the side events to enjoy PLO AND still have the option to rep their country at the team event by playing the main game of poker.

As we are a amateur set up by name I would suggest upwards of 90% of members don"t have the game for PLO that is good enough to play at a level to achieve a team selection, so it could be said a main world championship team event excludes 90% of the members it serves?

Interesting side discussion for sure

*90% figure plucked out of air!
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Re: Event #1 WCOAP World Amateur Team Championship
« Reply #56 on: February 23, 2013, 12:20:20 PM »

As we are a amateur set up by name I would suggest upwards of 90% of members don"t have the game for PLO that is good enough to play at a level to achieve a team selection, so it could be said a main world championship team event excludes 90% of the members it serves?


That would help the England captain a lot in his selection struggles if it were true. I think, however, that your percentage is greatly overstated. I would say that most players, myself included, probably don"t have a superior PLO game, but are capable of getting by in this tournament.
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Re: Event #1 WCOAP World Amateur Team Championship
« Reply #57 on: February 23, 2013, 15:02:24 PM »


As we are a amateur set up by name I would suggest upwards of 90% of members don"t have the game for PLO that is good enough to play at a level to achieve a team selection, so it could be said a main world championship team event excludes 90% of the members it serves?


That would help the England captain a lot in his selection struggles if it were true. I think, however, that your percentage is greatly overstated. I would say that most players, myself included, probably don"t have a superior PLO game, but are capable of getting by in this tournament.


I have noted the % figure was completely taken out from nowhere, just very much generalising.  Maybe I"ve missed a trick then, however I still think (lets say most members) don"t have a game for PLO, therefore "most" can"t be selected for this prestigious tournament

Like I said from the outset - just me being bitter and selfish!  ::)
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Re: Event #1 WCOAP World Amateur Team Championship
« Reply #58 on: February 24, 2013, 14:39:41 PM »


It"s a shame some teams are scratching around for players, whilst I have to turn down so many who are desperate to play. Need to get the English applicants looking at old family trees to discover long lost heritage to some of these countries that are struggling to field teams.   ;D


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On a serious note, Austria have entered a team in the past!
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Re: Event #1 WCOAP World Amateur Team Championship
« Reply #59 on: February 24, 2013, 14:53:16 PM »
On a serious note, Austria have entered a team in the past!


Last time was 2009, and they didn"t turn up  ;)
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