Should i be finding a fold here??

[jlane1980]

Blinds are 50/100 in a low stakes STT on Stars.

It"s been an extremely loose table, with most people having a VPIP of 25%+.

I"m UTG with    

I flat call, expecting a raise, particularly from the guy to my left, who is VPIP of 34% and PFR of about 30%.  He, as expected, raises to 300.   I intend to 3bet shove.  With only 14 BB and the blinds jumping within the next minute.


The button, another active player, then 3 bets to 600.  Although he"s been active, he"s only shown down good hands and seems a pretty solid player.  (Plus he has 2 stars under his name, so he"s put in the time, at least!) so i suspect he has the same read on UTG+1 as i do.

What should i do at this stage?? and what range would you put everyone on?

[jlane1980]

Just checked my poker tracker.  The 3 bettor is 15/9 (VPIP/PFR).

[AMRN]

Never folding QQ with 14xBB and with the blinds about to go up. Never ever. Not ever. No way. Never.

Don"t mind the utg limp if you"re sure someone will get active behind you - I definitely want to be getting to showdown at least two way, or even three way for value.   Having got your action, why on earth would you ever consider folding?


I"m guessing that you got it in, and you were behind, hence this thread asking the question.

[jlane1980]

Yeah! But i didn"t think it was right to post the results in the opening thread!  +1 had AK and Button had Kings!  I had the usual sweat though, when there was a K J 10 on the flop, but nothing happened, and i had to exit!

[AAroddersAA]

Two Stars means Chrome Star which can be done in a day :-)

If it is a sitngo how many players are left? There could be ICM considerations (unlikely at this stage I know). Do we have a 3-bet stat on the button and over how many hands? How many chips do you have (about 1400 right?), how many does the 3-bettor have? What about the caller?

Post the full hand history, it is unlikely in the extreme to be anything other than a snap call but need the full picture as it is not impossible that it is.

[amcgrath1uk]

I played a ton of low stakes stt"s last year, if I go back and check I"d be sure I never folded QQ preflop.If they have KK/AA so be it, fire up another one if you lose.

The only way I"d consider it ( from a making money point of view), is if you"re shortstacked, on the money bubble and there"s already 2 all ins.

[suzanne]

Never folding QQ with 14xBB and with the blinds about to go up. Never ever. Not ever. No way. Never.

Don"t mind the utg limp if you"re sure someone will get active behind you - I definitely want to be getting to showdown at least two way, or even three way for value.   Having got your action, why on earth would you ever consider folding?


I"m guessing that you got it in, and you were behind, hence this thread asking the question.

^^this

[GiMac]

Just a cold deck. Unlucky.

[ladman]

I played a ton of low stakes stt"s last year, if I go back and check I"d be sure I never folded QQ preflop.If they have KK/AA so be it, fire up another one if you lose.

The only way I"d consider it ( from a making money point of view), is if you"re shortstacked, on the money bubble and there"s already 2 all ins.

well this for sure is not a winning play. 14 bb deep you can"t fold qq barring everyone else or everyone -1 goes all in at the table meaning folding will highly likely put you in the money, other wise never fold. Other than that qq can definately be folded pre in certain spots. first 2 levels in an stt, if 2 players 3 then 4 bet to you, more often than not you"re gonna be flipping at best. Awful ICM to call