30 bigs at this stage is no mans land, as Steve has said too many to shove, as said in above posts I decided to 3 bet to win the money in the pot, I am oop in the hand and if I win pre flop I get a few chips without showdown, if I get 4 bet I am sure I am beat or flipping at best, if he flats then it"s set or nothing probs unless hit an open ender then wether I fancy a gamble at that point.
if there had been 1 or 2 limpers I more than likely flat, but with 20/25 bigs I just get it all in pre.
Heard a pro this morning on the wsop commenary talk about a hand he played at an ept event 10k buy in, he just jams 66 with 40 bigs over an utg raise, he ran into AA lol, but he was obviously hoping to win the hoped for flip and win to take him to 80 plus bigs so he has more chance to win the tournament, personally think its a bit spewy but obviously don"t know dynamics of the table.