Live Updates from ECOAP 2013 Team Champ Thu 5/Fri 6 Dec

[presty]

Table 3

Eva (Slov) pushes all in with   - approx. 1800 chips

She was called by Jerry (Bel) with  



Eva out

[IrishTom]

Table	Team	Player	Stack	Pos	Points
T3S1	SVK	Eva Mendelova		7th	1
T3S2	ITA	Maggisano Giuseppe		8th	0
T3S3	SCO	Clare Duffy	2000		0
T3S4	BEL	Jerry Vanbyck	15000		0
T3S5	SWI	Markus	6000		0
T3S6	ENG	Paul Haycock	5000		0
T3S7	GER	Stephan Kalhamer	4000		0
T3S8	FRA	Florian Moreau	8000		0

[Laxie]

Just caught up.

Completely agree with all who said chips should remain in play. Once his money has been paid his chips stay on the table. It"s a disservice to the Swiss team, but also we have a precedent from the day before and on top of that, what"s to stop another player turning up and not bothering to play?

Just because he"s not in the building doesn"t stop his chips from playing.

Agree with this also, but no point in our derailing the live update thread on the topic. 

I"d like to think his chips will go into play in the later phases with the exception of any heads up events, where it would be completely unreasonable on his opponent.

I would also add that due to the lack of intervention from the Swiss captain prior to that phase starting, the decision to award the team no points for the absent player should stand without question.

I"m sorry, but that just doesn"t sit right with me. Just because the Swiss captain didn"t know enough to speak up (or felt unable) doesn"t mean it shouldn"t be pointed out. Basically telling us to shut up and leave it doesn"t make it go away, but I"m happy to hear it will be made right for the rest of the series.  

[IrishTom]

Table/Seat	Team	Player	Stack	Pos	Points
T2S1	IRE	John Murray		8th	0
T2S2	SVK	Petra Fedorova	5000		0
T2S3	ENG	Tony Trippier	11000		0
T2S4	ITA	Luca Cannella	7000		0
T2S5	SCO	Gordon McArthur	8000		0
T2S6	BEL	Jan Kusters	5000		0
T2S7	GER	Juergen Bachmann	2000		0
T2S8	CZH	Vitek Pesta	2000		0

[presty]

Table 1

Mario (Czech) pushes all in for about 3000 with   .

He is called by Christoff (Bel) with  

Board  

Mario out in 4th

[IrishTom]

Just caught up.

Completely agree with all who said chips should remain in play. Once his money has been paid his chips stay on the table. It"s a disservice to the Swiss team, but also we have a precedent from the day before and on top of that, what"s to stop another player turning up and not bothering to play?

Just because he"s not in the building doesn"t stop his chips from playing.

Agree with this also, but no point in our derailing the live update thread on the topic. 

I"d like to think his chips will go into play in the later phases with the exception of any heads up events, where it would be completely unreasonable on his opponent.

I would also add that due to the lack of intervention from the Swiss captain prior to that phase starting, the decision to award the team no points for the absent player should stand without question.

I"m sorry, but that just doesn"t sit right with me. Just because the Swiss captain didn"t know enough to speak up (or felt unable) doesn"t mean it shouldn"t be pointed out. Basically telling us to shut up and leave it doesn"t make it go away, but I"m happy to hear it will be made right for the rest of the series. 

He was removed by TD and myself - he got 0 pts - cannot go back now - I will NOT put his chips in play for the MTT unless Des overrules that and says "put them in play"

[presty]

Table 4

Tedy (France) pushes all in with   2,000 chips

Called by Jakub (Czech) with  

   

Tedy out even though he hit a Full House

[TheSnapper]

Great updates.
Yes Ger"s chips were kept in play and he came 4th, why not for the Swiss guy today?

Ger was "on his way" - Besim is def not turning up today

Seems very wrong to me tbh. Surely the circumstances of a players absence are irrelevant and leaves lots of room for contention.  

[IrishTom]

T5

S6 IRE   Kev O"Hanlon all in

called by

S1 FRA   Gargis Guillsume



Kev departs T5 in 6th position

[presty]

Table 3 - Stephan (Ger) pushes all in with 3,000 with  

Called by Florian (Fra) with  



Another German out -  not their day today - Scotland catching them in the team race

[IrishTom]

EUROPEAN AMATEUR TEAM CHAMPIONSHIP Phase 4 12:00 FRI 6TH DEC 2013 5 X NLHE 8-HANDED STTs

UPDATED TO

Table/Seat	Team	Player	Stack	Pos	Points
T1S1	IRE	Frank Bailie			0
T1S2	ENG	Richard Baker			0
T1S3	GER	Alex Muhlbauer		6th	2
T1S4	SCO	Tom Clark		5th	3
T1S5	FRA	Ginaudo Clement		7th	1
T1S6	SWI	Besim Hot		8th	0
T1S7	BEL	Christoff Gebruers			0
T1S8	CZH	Mario Bures		4th	4
Table/Seat	Team	Player	Stack	Pos	Points
T2S1	IRE	John Murray		8th	0
T2S2	SVK	Petra Fedorova			0
T2S3	ENG	Tony Trippier			0
T2S4	ITA	Luca Cannella			0
T2S5	SCO	Gordon McArthur			0
T2S6	BEL	Jan Kusters			0
T2S7	GER	Juergen Bachmann			0
T2S8	CZH	Vitek Pesta			0
Table	Team	Player	Stack	Pos	Points
T3S1	SVK	Eva Mendelova		7th	1
T3S2	ITA	Maggisano Giuseppe		8th	0
T3S3	SCO	Clare Duffy			0
T3S4	BEL	Jerry Vanbyck			0
T3S5	SWI	Markus			0
T3S6	ENG	Paul Haycock			0
T3S7	GER	Stephan Kalhamer		6th	2
T3S8	FRA	Florian Moreau			0
Table/Seat	Team	Player	Stack	Pos	Points
T4S1	CZH	Jakub Mazur			0
T4S2	GER	Matze Weigert		5th	3
T4S3	IRE	Ger Smyth		6th	2
T4S4	SVK	Ela Kubiucaia			0
T4S5	SWI	Marc Horisberger		8th	0
T4S6	ENG	Carl Pilgrim			0
T4S7	ITA	Gabriel Iemmito		7th	1
T4S8	FRA	Tedy Demolon		4th	4
Table	Team	Player	Stack	Pos	Points
T5S1	FRA	Gargis Guillsume			0
T5S2	CZH	Petr Toman		7th	1
T5S3	ITA	Luigi Belleri		8th	0
T5S4	SWI	Mayr Andre			0
T5S5	SVK	Fedor Stadtrucker			0
T5S6	IRE	Kev O"Hanlon		6th	2
T5S7	SCO	James Ellis			0
T5S8	BEL	Tom Slikboer			0

[IrishTom]

	Phase 1	Phase 2	Phase 3	Phase 4	Phase 5		Total
Germany	26	22	16	7	0		71
Belgium	13	15	16	0	0		44
Slovakia	7	24	12	1	0		44
England	16	18	8	0	0		42
Scotland	24	13	4	3	0		44
Ireland	19	14	4	4	0		41
France	18	10	4	5	0		37
Czech Republic	6	14	4	5	0		29
Switzerland	6	12	4	0	0		22
Italy	10	3	8	1	0		22

	Phase 1	Phase 2	Phase 3	Phase 4	Phase 5		Total
Alex Muhlbauer (GER)	8	8	4	2	0		22
Clare Duffy (SCO)	8	6	4	0	0		18
Matze Weigert (GER)	8	5	4	3	0		20
Ginaudo Clement (FRA)	8	8	0	1	0		17
Stephan Kalhamer (GER)	6	5	4	2	0		17
Carl Pilgrim (ENG)	4	6	4	0	0		14
Kev O"Hanlon (IRE)	8	5	0	2	0		15
Fedor Stadtrucker (SVK)	1	8	4	0	0		13
Jerry Vanbyck (BEL)	3	5	4	0	0		12
Jan Kusters (BEL)	3	5	4	0	0		12
Tony Trippier (ENG)	6	6	0	0	0		12
Juergen Bachmann (GER)	4	4	4	0	0		12
Petra Fedorova (SVK)	4	4	4	0	0		12
Richard Baker (ENG)	3	4	4	0	0		11
Marc Horisberger (SWI)	3	8	0	0	0		11
Christoff Gebruers (BEL)	5	1	4	0	0		10
Tom Slikboer (BEL)	2	4	4	0	0		10
John Murray (IRE)	6	4	0	0	0		10
Ela Kubiucaia (SVK)	0	6	4	0	0		10
Gargis Guillsume (FRA)	4	1	4	0	0		9
Gabriel Iemmito (ITA)	2	3	4	1	0		10
Mario Bures (CZH)	0	8	0	4	0		12
Jakub Mazur (CZH)	5	3	0	0	0		8
Frank Bailie (IRE)	1	3	4	0	0		8
James Ellis (SCO)	5	3	0	0	0		8
Tom Clark (SCO)	6	2	0	3	0		11
Eva Mendelova (SVK)	2	6	0	1	0		9
Gordon McArthur (SCO)	5	2	0	0	0		7
Markus (SWI)	2	1	4	0	0		7
Tedy Demolon (FRA)	5	1	0	4	0		10
Ger Smyth (IRE)	4	2	0	2	0		8
Maggisano Giuseppe (ITA)	6	0	0	0	0		6
Paul Haycock (ENG)	3	2	0	0	0		5
Petr Toman (CZH)	0	0	4	1	0		5
Vitek Pesta (CZH)	1	3	0	0	0		4
Luca Cannella (ITA)	0	0	4	0	0		4
Luigi Belleri (ITA)	2	0	0	0	0		2
Mayr Andre (SWI)	1	1	0	0	0		2
Besim Hot (SWI)	0	2	0	0	0		2
Florian Moreau (FRA)	1	0	0	0	0		1

[presty]

Duffy doubles up to approx. 4000 with   .  She is still chasing the German team and in view of Alex getting knocked out on his table in 6th position, she has a good chance of catching him

[Chipaccrual]

Just caught up.

Completely agree with all who said chips should remain in play. Once his money has been paid his chips stay on the table. It"s a disservice to the Swiss team, but also we have a precedent from the day before and on top of that, what"s to stop another player turning up and not bothering to play?

Just because he"s not in the building doesn"t stop his chips from playing.

Agree with this also, but no point in our derailing the live update thread on the topic. 

I"d like to think his chips will go into play in the later phases with the exception of any heads up events, where it would be completely unreasonable on his opponent.

I would also add that due to the lack of intervention from the Swiss captain prior to that phase starting, the decision to award the team no points for the absent player should stand without question.

I"m sorry, but that just doesn"t sit right with me. Just because the Swiss captain didn"t know enough to speak up (or felt unable) doesn"t mean it shouldn"t be pointed out. Basically telling us to shut up and leave it doesn"t make it go away, but I"m happy to hear it will be made right for the rest of the series. 

He was removed by TD and myself - he got 0 pts - cannot go back now - I will NOT put his chips in play for the MTT unless Des overrules that and says "put them in play"

Errr Tom, I"m pretty sure that APATAdmin = Des  

[presty]

Still 4 Belgians in the comp

Table 2

Vitek (Czech) pushes all in with his final 300 chips (Jan from Belgium took most the hand previously).  He is called by Luca (Italy)

Vitek has  

Luca  

board  

Vitek out in 7th