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Re: WCOAP 2015 #1 PLO Sat 28 Mar 14:00
« Reply #15 on: March 17, 2015, 15:42:00 PM »

The Dublin event, from a players perspective was a huge success.


Blatant "I FTed in Dublin" post if you ask me.

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Re: WCOAP 2015 #1 PLO Sat 28 Mar 14:00
« Reply #16 on: March 17, 2015, 19:52:15 PM »
I think it"s good as is.
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Re: WCOAP 2015 #1 PLO Sat 28 Mar 14:00
« Reply #17 on: March 17, 2015, 19:59:22 PM »
Really hoping this is 15k plus 15k
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Re: WCOAP 2015 #1 PLO Sat 28 Mar 14:00
« Reply #18 on: March 17, 2015, 20:18:46 PM »
I for don"t think a dubble stack is a good idea. I longer clock is always better then a stupidly large amount of chips.
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Re: WCOAP 2015 #1 PLO Sat 28 Mar 14:00
« Reply #19 on: March 17, 2015, 20:27:23 PM »

I for don"t think a dubble stack is a good idea. I longer clock is always better then a stupidly large amount of chips.


for no limit i agree, but this is plo. Why we arnt operating on the same format as the successful Irish leg is a big surprise, irrespective of the additional numbers possible...
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Re: WCOAP 2015 #1 PLO Sat 28 Mar 14:00
« Reply #20 on: March 17, 2015, 20:59:06 PM »


I for don"t think a dubble stack is a good idea. I longer clock is always better then a stupidly large amount of chips.


for no limit i agree, but this is plo. Why we arnt operating on the same format as the successful Irish leg is a big surprise, irrespective of the additional numbers possible...


Pls tell me what you mean about NL or PL as I don"t see why you need more chips to play a PL game.
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Re: WCOAP 2015 #1 PLO Sat 28 Mar 14:00
« Reply #21 on: March 17, 2015, 22:03:02 PM »



I for don"t think a dubble stack is a good idea. I longer clock is always better then a stupidly large amount of chips.


for no limit i agree, but this is plo. Why we arnt operating on the same format as the successful Irish leg is a big surprise, irrespective of the additional numbers possible...


Pls tell me what you mean about NL or PL as I don"t see why you need more chips to play a PL game.


Not the limit, but the game. And not necessarily a double starting stack, but a double chance where players can choose to take the 2nd stack anytime upto a certain level.

Bigger average pot sizes in PLO make the same size stack last less time compared to NLHE. Add that equities run much closer in PLO than NLHE and it"s easier to be forced into a flip for your tournament life. Double chance ensures people can take that shot with a bullet behind = less nitty = more action/bigger stack sizes/better comp.

Doubling the starting chips only a couple of levels difference in the grand scheme of things. 2m chips at 10k/20k is the same BBs in play as 4m at 20k/40k - which 1-3 levels further on depending on how generous the structure is.

But gives more play to everyone at the start.
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Re: WCOAP 2015 #1 PLO Sat 28 Mar 14:00
« Reply #22 on: March 17, 2015, 22:25:31 PM »
So more chips more gamble.

More chips more chance of suck outs
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Re: WCOAP 2015 #1 PLO Sat 28 Mar 14:00
« Reply #23 on: March 18, 2015, 04:29:26 AM »

So more chips more gamble.

More chips cards more chance of suck outs

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Re: WCOAP 2015 #1 PLO Sat 28 Mar 14:00
« Reply #24 on: March 18, 2015, 06:11:59 AM »

So more chips more gamble.

More chips more chance of suck outs



The opposite. Less action and a nitfest encourages shorter stacks and then everyone just waits to get it in pre and flip.

Every tournament reaches that point, but delaying it as long as possible gives stack size time to diverge. If everyone has the same stack size everyone is hamstrung.
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Re: WCOAP 2015 #1 PLO Sat 28 Mar 14:00
« Reply #25 on: March 18, 2015, 08:59:14 AM »
25k SS for a two day event a good compromise?.. Always large pots early on in a PLO game and bust outs towards end of day 1 would be thick and fast with a smaller 15k SS..
Would be great to see 30-40 make day2.. Would prehaps help the numbers for the later game as those who bust out hop into new event  ;)
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Re: WCOAP 2015 #1 PLO Sat 28 Mar 14:00
« Reply #26 on: March 18, 2015, 11:28:37 AM »

25k SS for a two day event a good compromise?.. Always large pots early on in a PLO game and bust outs towards end of day 1 would be thick and fast with a smaller 15k SS..
Would be great to see 30-40 make day2.. Would prehaps help the numbers for the later game as those who bust out hop into new event  ;)




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Re: WCOAP 2015 #1 PLO Sat 28 Mar 14:00
« Reply #27 on: March 18, 2015, 12:14:12 PM »

I think it"s good as is.



I for don"t think a dubble stack is a good idea. I longer clock is always better then a stupidly large amount of chips.




25k SS for a two day event a good compromise?.. Always large pots early on in a PLO game and bust outs towards end of day 1 would be thick and fast with a smaller 15k SS..
Would be great to see 30-40 make day2.. Would prehaps help the numbers for the later game as those who bust out hop into new event  ;)


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Re: WCOAP 2015 #1 PLO Sat 28 Mar 14:00
« Reply #28 on: March 18, 2015, 17:58:06 PM »
however we arrive at a larger starting stack for a "two day" plo comp with a decent structure is the goal.

I really am confused by trying to develop a structure that has flexibility...a decent structure should be able to withstand 70-170 runners and shouldn"t have to be revised based on the number of runners...

Get the structure right in the first place and a back up plan shouldn"t be required...
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Re: WCOAP 2015 #1 PLO Sat 28 Mar 14:00
« Reply #29 on: March 18, 2015, 18:47:54 PM »
A 2 day event with a 15k starting stack and 45min clock is bang on perfect for NLH think this is proven with the success of the Nationals.

IMO a 2 day event 15k SS with 30 min clock PLO is going to be a little shallow even if you run a 45 min clock I think at the end of day1 you wouldn"t be left with many runners..

Looking forward regardless but hope to see prehaps 20/25k SS  ;D
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