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antthecat

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could you call
« on: March 19, 2009, 08:07:09 AM »
situation: blinds 300/600, my stack 8000

i was on the bb and was dealt  ad qs, the cutoff shoved for 6000 and the small blind shoved for 2500. i have only played a few hands as i was moved to this table and had no opinion but i thought they were both tight.

what would you do, call or fold???????
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Re: could you call
« Reply #1 on: March 19, 2009, 08:34:08 AM »
you really need to ask that one??

ask yourself if the cutoff is going to shove with anything that isn"t ahead of AQo, and then would the SB shove behind with anything that AQo is beating?  Against just one of them it"s a marginal call - against two it"s a "fold so fast you break your mouse in the process" type fold!!

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Re: could you call
« Reply #2 on: March 19, 2009, 08:37:05 AM »
No Reads, Defo fold!
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Re: could you call
« Reply #3 on: March 19, 2009, 08:39:47 AM »
Reads or not, still a fold imo. Would rather play something like 78s than AQ in this position.

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Re: could you call
« Reply #4 on: March 19, 2009, 08:47:03 AM »
Questions:

When do the blinds go up - what is the blind structure?

How many players left and how many prizes?

What is your attitude to limping to prizes/winning top prizes?

Why did you think they were both tight - with no information?

I see plenty of people pushing in that position with weaker aces ... and the SB is very short stacked ...

Pretty marginal for me ...

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Re: could you call
« Reply #5 on: March 19, 2009, 10:55:36 AM »
the cut off was an old boy and the sb was a girl who i played with(steady) a few times before and thats where i got my judgement.

i did fold but as it was the final table bubble everyone was watching i showed the aq and said i give respect(i thought it was the right fold at the time) but the other spectators said i was a (excuse this) a f****** donkey, a stupid (im not going to write this word as it is discraceful) and a lot more expletatives,

i thought it was the right fold but i was tilted by what everyone called me.

by the way i would have won as i was up against jacks and sevens and a queen came on the flop but i was not to know this.
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Re: could you call
« Reply #6 on: March 19, 2009, 11:06:12 AM »
... I don"t think you should show your AQ ...

However if it is the final table bubble you have to fold and hopefully let the cut off kill the SB.

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Re: could you call
« Reply #7 on: March 19, 2009, 11:15:54 AM »

... I don"t think you should show your AQ ...

However if it is the final table bubble you have to fold and hopefully let the cut off kill the SB.

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Re: could you call
« Reply #8 on: March 19, 2009, 17:05:30 PM »
probably fold on the bubble but depending upon the situation i have also been known to snap this off as CO range could be wide. The extra chips he has could be insurance in case SB has you beat.

of course you can just fold and just keep shoving yourself, which is fine.
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Re: could you call
« Reply #9 on: March 19, 2009, 18:03:18 PM »
Easy call 100% of the time.

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Re: could you call
« Reply #10 on: March 19, 2009, 18:09:56 PM »

Easy call 100% of the time.


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Your crushing the button"s range. Even if you lose to the short stack- as long as your beat the button you"ll make money anyway.

Plus the shortstack"s range is super wide too.

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Re: could you call
« Reply #11 on: March 19, 2009, 18:12:55 PM »
Call - but hey thats just me  ;D

note: I did call with AQ last night in the home game and was battered by 45o  ;D
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Re: could you call
« Reply #12 on: March 19, 2009, 18:15:37 PM »
Call always. 

What"s the significance of it being a final table bubble?  Were all final table places being paid?  How important to you was the first rung of the pay ladder?  If we"re playing for the win I"d have shoved here.  You"ve only got 12 big blinds left, you need chips if you want to win.  It"s 5,400 to win just over 9,000.  The cut-off and the SB are both short so you"re well ahead of their range.  Gerrit it in man and good luck to thee...that"s what I always say.

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Re: could you call
« Reply #13 on: March 19, 2009, 21:16:07 PM »
as per george explanation.

snap call

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Re: could you call
« Reply #14 on: March 20, 2009, 01:18:49 AM »
fold.... are u having a laugh?! you only have to beat the origional raiser to make a profit on the hand, and his range is high

folding is way way too tight