Hero call thread

[mal666]

Direct rip off from Blonde, a thread to show those soul pwning river calls.
Lots of history with this clown.
Seat 1: trhov (66595 in chips)
Seat 2: mal666 (147727 in chips)
Seat 3: Doc1033 (63154 in chips)
Seat 4: jar jagr68 (326433 in chips)
Seat 5: RMoney54 (86847 in chips)
Seat 6: Lorealman (105748 in chips)
Seat 7: bellonv (84334 in chips)
Seat 8: mono panda (58094 in chips)
Seat 9: Ivydrive (176181 in chips)
trhov: posts the ante 500
mal666: posts the ante 500
Doc1033: posts the ante 500
jar jagr68: posts the ante 500
RMoney54: posts the ante 500
Lorealman: posts the ante 500
bellonv: posts the ante 500
mono panda: posts the ante 500
Ivydrive: posts the ante 500
trhov: posts small blind 2500
mal666: posts big blind 5000
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to mal666 [ ]
Doc1033: folds
jar jagr68: folds
RMoney54: folds
Lorealman: folds
bellonv: calls 5000
mono panda: folds
Ivydrive: folds
trhov: folds
mal666: checks
*** FLOP *** [ ]
mal666: checks
bellonv: bets 15000
mal666: calls 15000
*** TURN *** [ ] []
mal666: checks
bellonv: bets 15000
mal666: calls 15000
*** RIVER *** [ ]  kh
mal666: checks
bellonv: bets 48834 and is all-in
mal666: calls 48834
*** SHOW DOWN ***
bellonv: shows [ ] (a pair of Sixes)
mal666: shows [ ] (two pair, Sixes and Fours)
mal666 collected 174668 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 174668 | Rake 0
Board [  kh
Seat 2: mal666 (big blind) showed [ ] and won (174668) with two pair, Sixes and Fours
Seat 7: bellonv showed [ ] and lost with a pair of Sixes

[mal666]

Table "170106835 9" 9-max Seat #8 is the button
Seat 1: mal666 (4405 in chips)
Seat 2: Portello (2060 in chips)
Seat 3: bouklinio (3385 in chips)
Seat 4: da_roc419 (3281 in chips)
Seat 5: bissnezz (2314 in chips)
Seat 6: teukka64 (4468 in chips)
Seat 7: Lesage88 (2314 in chips)
Seat 8: SQUIRELL555 (165 in chips
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to mal666 [ ]
Portello: folds
bouklinio: folds
da_roc419: folds
bissnezz: calls 30
teukka64: folds
Lesage88: folds
SQUIRELL555: folds
spence6972AA: calls 15
mal666: checks
*** FLOP *** [ ]
spence6972AA: checks
mal666: bets 90
bissnezz: calls 90
spence6972AA: folds
*** TURN *** [ ] []
mal666: bets 120
bissnezz: calls 120
*** RIVER *** [ ] []
mal666: checks
bissnezz: bets 600
mal666: calls 600
*** SHOW DOWN ***
bissnezz: shows [ ] (two pair, Jacks and Deuces)
mal666: shows [ ] (two pair, Jacks and Sixes)
mal666 collected 1764 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 1764
Board [ ]
Seat 1: mal666 (big blind) showed [ ] and won (1764) with two pair, Jacks and Sixes
Seat 5: bissnezz showed [ ] and lost with two pair, Jacks and Deuces

[AMRN]

re that first one with pockets fours..... two words spring to mind..... "station" and "calling"  

[mal666]

re that first one with pockets fours..... two words spring to mind..... "station" and "calling"  

meta-station  

[mal666]

re that first one with pockets fours..... two words spring to mind..... "station" and "calling"  

I think you nailed it Steve check this 1 out. B on B LIMPED
PokerStars Game #30165098434: Tournament #176962447, $50+$5 Hold'em No Limit - Level IV (50/100) - 2009/07/06 20:57:32 WET [2009/07/06 15:57:32 ET]
Table "176962447 87" 9-max Seat #4 is the button
Seat 1: nyypi (1570 in chips)
Seat 2: Mowiga (1415 in chips)
Seat 3: Noseblow (1670 in chips)
Seat 4: CalciTec (5965 in chips)
Seat 5: Jhustle662 (2145 in chips)
Seat 6: mal666 (3175 in chips)
Seat 7: wodka88 (2355 in chips)
Seat 8: super busti (9520 in chips)
Seat 9: t0bias7 (1630 in chips)
Jhustle662: posts small blind 50
mal666: posts big blind 100
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to mal666 [ Tc]
wodka88: folds
super busti: folds
t0bias7: folds
nyypi: folds
Mowiga: folds
Noseblow: folds
CalciTec: folds
Jhustle662: calls 50
mal666: checks
*** FLOP *** [ Td ]
Jhustle662: bets 300
mal666: calls 300
*** TURN *** [ Td ] []
Jhustle662: checks
mal666: checks
*** RIVER *** [ Td ] []
Jhustle662: bets 1745 and is all-in
mal666: calls 1745
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Jhustle662: shows [ ] (a pair of Deuces)
mal666: shows [ Tc] (two pair, Tens and Sixes)
mal666 collected 4290 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 4290 | Rake 0
Board [ Td ]
Seat 1: nyypi folded before Flop (didn"t bet)
Seat 2: Mowiga folded before Flop (didn"t bet)
Seat 3: Noseblow folded before Flop (didn"t bet)
Seat 4: CalciTec (button) folded before Flop (didn"t bet)
Seat 5: Jhustle662 (small blind) showed [ ] and lost with a pair of Deuces
Seat 6: mal666 (big blind) showed [ Tc] and won (4290) with two pair, Tens and Sixes
Seat 7: wodka88 folded before Flop (didn"t bet)
Seat 8: super busti folded before Flop (didn"t bet)
Seat 9: t0bias7 folded before Flop (didn"t bet)

[CrizzyConnor]

One I particularly like from a tournament a couple of weeks ago, i"m sure this was the $11 cubed I finished 23rd in.

I picked up that he bet pot when trying to buy the pot so was like 95% sure I was ahead and went with my read.

http://www.pokerhand.org/?4405974

> PokerStars Game #29784292301: Tournament #173034323, $10+$1 Hold'em No Limit - Level VI (100/200)
> 2009/06/26 1:39:29 WET 2009/06/25 20:39:29 ET
> Table "173034323 50" 9-max Seat #9 is the button
> Seat 1: AAsetoKK (11665 in chips)
> Seat 2: CrizzyConnor (14875 in chips)
> Seat 3: annodv (12835 in chips)
> Seat 4: jdog_fl (13343 in chips)
> Seat 5: eatyourstac (5340 in chips) is sitting out
> Seat 6: THESTONE33 (17755 in chips)
> Seat 7: BigWilli007 (4431 in chips)
> Seat 8: HUH43 (18911 in chips)
> Seat 9: SERGI69 (10593 in chips)
> AAsetoKK: posts small blind 100
> CrizzyConnor: posts big blind 200
> HOLE CARDS
>
Dealt to CrizzyConnor
th  
> annodv: folds
> jdog_fl: folds
> eatyourstac: folds
> THESTONE33: folds
> BigWilli007: folds
> HUH43: folds
> SERGI69: folds
> AAsetoKK: calls 100
> CrizzyConnor: checks
>
FLOP:
ac ts
> AAsetoKK: bets 200
> CrizzyConnor: calls 200
>
TURN:
ac ts  kc
> AAsetoKK: bets 800
> CrizzyConnor: calls 800
>
RIVER:
ac ts  kc  
> AAsetoKK: bets 2000
> CrizzyConnor: calls 2000
>
SHOW DOWN :
> AAsetoKK: shows   ::
 (high card Ace)
> CrizzyConnor: shows   th
 (a pair of Tens)
> CrizzyConnor collected 6400 from pot
>
SUMMARY:
> Total pot 6400 | Rake 0
>
Board:
ac ts  kc  
   
> Seat 1: AAsetoKK (small blind) shows   ::
 and lost with high card Ace
> Seat 2: CrizzyConnor (big blind) shows   th
 and won (6400) with a pair of Tens
> Seat 3: annodv folded before Flop (didn"t bet)
> Seat 4: jdog_fl folded before Flop (didn"t bet)
> Seat 5: eatyourstac folded before Flop (didn"t bet)
> Seat 6: THESTONE33 folded before Flop (didn"t bet)
> Seat 7: BigWilli007 folded before Flop (didn"t bet)
> Seat 8: HUH43 folded before Flop (didn"t bet)
> Seat 9: SERGI69 (button) folded before Flop (didn"t bet)

[mal666]

n1  

[undisputed]

n1  

Are these hero calls. . . . .. 

They are ok in $10 games i guess, but could these calls made in the WSOP mE. . .i v.v. much doubt it ! !

Can we pls change it to Bad call Thread ! !

I would be v interedted in how many times you make these calls and get it WRONG. . . .

P.S. . . . please remind me never to try bluff either of you . . . . . . you are obv in the same category ad kings cross, paddington, marlybone and the likes  ! ! ! ! !    

[CrizzyConnor]

n1  

Are these hero calls. . . . .. 

They are ok in $10 games i guess, but could these calls made in the WSOP mE. . .i v.v. much doubt it ! !

Can we pls change it to Bad call Thread ! !

I would be v interedted in how many times you make these calls and get it WRONG. . . .

P.S. . . . please remind me never to try bluff either of you . . . . . . you are obv in the same category as kings cross, paddington, marlybone and the likes  ! ! ! ! !    

Could they be made in the WSOP? Of course, what"s the difference? I"d only ever be playing the WSOP ME if I could afford to or won my way in so def wouldn"t be playing scared - if you"re not going to trust your reads and call off 15% of your stack to potentially increase it by a lot more then you shouldn"t be playing poker imo. Yes you"re going to get it wrong sometimes when someone just flat out plays a hand weird but you have to trust your reads sometimes and if you"re wrong so be it.

On the subject of the difference between an $11 game and one of a much higher buy in, am I the only one who doesn"t see/feel a difference between the value of such games? Like once you"re money"s in the pot you"re not seeing it again unless you win or cash so why play any different or scared in a big tourney?

If i"m at your table anytime soon though, best not to bluff me (just incase I am just a deluded station after all)  

[undisputed]

n1  

Are these hero calls. . . . .. 

They are ok in $10 games i guess, but could these calls made in the WSOP mE. . .i v.v. much doubt it ! !

Can we pls change it to Bad call Thread ! !

I would be v interedted in how many times you make these calls and get it WRONG. . . .

P.S. . . . please remind me never to try bluff either of you . . . . . . you are obv in the same category as kings cross, paddington, marlybone and the likes  ! ! ! ! !    

Could they be made in the WSOP? Of course, what"s the difference? I"d only ever be playing the WSOP ME if I could afford to or won my way in so def wouldn"t be playing scared - if you"re not going to trust your reads and call off 15% of your stack to potentially increase it by a lot more then you shouldn"t be playing poker imo. Yes you"re going to get it wrong sometimes when someone just flat out plays a hand weird but you have to trust your reads sometimes and if you"re wrong so be it.

On the subject of the difference between an $11 game and one of a much higher buy in, am I the only one who doesn"t see/feel a difference between the value of such games? Like once you"re money"s in the pot you"re not seeing it again unless you win or cash so why play any different or scared in a big tourney?

If i"m at your table anytime soon though, best not to bluff me (just incase I am just a deluded station after all)  

The difference ? ? ? ? they are BAD calls. . . .. and when the money is negligable, it doesn"t matter if you get them right or wrong ! ! ! !

Why not raise on the turn find out where you are in the hand ? ?  By calling you never find out, you are not sure where you stand, and you don"t even try to find out???

hope you are on my table in Edinburgh. . . . i "ll make sure if u decide to call my bluff it"ll cost you dearly :-)

[Mikeyboy9361]

Great read, great call.

[CrizzyConnor]

n1  

Are these hero calls. . . . .. 

They are ok in $10 games i guess, but could these calls made in the WSOP mE. . .i v.v. much doubt it ! !

Can we pls change it to Bad call Thread ! !

I would be v interedted in how many times you make these calls and get it WRONG. . . .

P.S. . . . please remind me never to try bluff either of you . . . . . . you are obv in the same category as kings cross, paddington, marlybone and the likes  ! ! ! ! !    

Could they be made in the WSOP? Of course, what"s the difference? I"d only ever be playing the WSOP ME if I could afford to or won my way in so def wouldn"t be playing scared - if you"re not going to trust your reads and call off 15% of your stack to potentially increase it by a lot more then you shouldn"t be playing poker imo. Yes you"re going to get it wrong sometimes when someone just flat out plays a hand weird but you have to trust your reads sometimes and if you"re wrong so be it.

On the subject of the difference between an $11 game and one of a much higher buy in, am I the only one who doesn"t see/feel a difference between the value of such games? Like once you"re money"s in the pot you"re not seeing it again unless you win or cash so why play any different or scared in a big tourney?

If i"m at your table anytime soon though, best not to bluff me (just incase I am just a deluded station after all)  

The difference ? ? ? ? they are BAD calls. . . .. and when the money is negligable, it doesn"t matter if you get them right or wrong ! ! ! !

Why not raise on the turn find out where you are in the hand ? ?  By calling you never find out, you are not sure where you stand, and you don"t even try to find out???

hope you are on my table in Edinburgh. . . . i "ll make sure if u decide to call my bluff it"ll cost you dearly :-)

I trust my reads but like I said before, I accept there are times when i"m wrong so why would I raise on the turn when he can easily ship it all in on a bluff and I then have no option but to fold. If I raise on the turn i"d have to raise it by around the 2,000 chips I called on the river, so why raise on the turn and commit the same amount of chips right there and risk being wrong when I do have some sort of showdown value to take to the river? Noticing a betting pattern such as him betting full pot-sized bets when he wanted to buy the pot going with it while also accepting that I could be wrong = just calling to lose the minimum in the event I am wrong, no?

Besides th is the nuts, if you"re at my table in Edinburgh and i"ve got it - i"m paying you off  

[undisputed]

n1  

Are these hero calls. . . . .. 

They are ok in $10 games i guess, but could these calls made in the WSOP mE. . .i v.v. much doubt it ! !

Can we pls change it to Bad call Thread ! !

I would be v interedted in how many times you make these calls and get it WRONG. . . .

P.S. . . . please remind me never to try bluff either of you . . . . . . you are obv in the same category as kings cross, paddington, marlybone and the likes  ! ! ! ! !    

Could they be made in the WSOP? Of course, what"s the difference? I"d only ever be playing the WSOP ME if I could afford to or won my way in so def wouldn"t be playing scared - if you"re not going to trust your reads and call off 15% of your stack to potentially increase it by a lot more then you shouldn"t be playing poker imo. Yes you"re going to get it wrong sometimes when someone just flat out plays a hand weird but you have to trust your reads sometimes and if you"re wrong so be it.

On the subject of the difference between an $11 game and one of a much higher buy in, am I the only one who doesn"t see/feel a difference between the value of such games? Like once you"re money"s in the pot you"re not seeing it again unless you win or cash so why play any different or scared in a big tourney?

If i"m at your table anytime soon though, best not to bluff me (just incase I am just a deluded station after all)  

The difference ? ? ? ? they are BAD calls. . . .. and when the money is negligable, it doesn"t matter if you get them right or wrong ! ! ! !

Why not raise on the turn find out where you are in the hand ? ?  By calling you never find out, you are not sure where you stand, and you don"t even try to find out???

hope you are on my table in Edinburgh. . . . i "ll make sure if u decide to call my bluff it"ll cost you dearly :-)

I trust my reads but like I said before, I accept there are times when i"m wrong so why would I raise on the turn when he can easily ship it all in on a bluff and I then have no option but to fold. If I raise on the turn i"d have to raise it by around the 2,000 chips I called on the river, so why raise on the turn and commit the same amount of chips right there and risk being wrong when I do have some sort of showdown value to take to the river? Noticing a betting pattern such as him betting full pot-sized bets when he wanted to buy the pot going with it while also accepting that I could be wrong = just calling to lose the minimum in the event I am wrong, no?

Besides th is the nuts, if you"re at my table in Edinburgh and i"ve got it - i"m paying you off  

Hey buddy. .. .  we can all be wrong......

If you raise, say to 1950 on the turn he passes. . . . . risking 850 less, and also riskint the chance of being outdrawn with the 4th club. . . . . .

Downside is, if you are milking him you get 2000 less. . . . .  

[deanp27]

by raising the turn you are turning your hand into a bluff, cos you sure aren"t doing it for value. Calling is way better and raising to "find out where you are" would be pretty terrible imo.

played it fine. nh

[undisputed]

by raising the turn you are turning your hand into a bluff, cos you sure aren"t doing it for value. Calling is way better and raising to "find out where you are" would be pretty terrible imo.

played it fine. nh

why ? ? how is it a bluff if you think you"re ahead ? ? ? surely you bluff with the worst hand not the best ? ??  ?

isn"t the idea of poker to bet with the best hand, and pass if you think you"re behind. . . .

"CALL". . . . just means, ok, i think i"m beat, but i"m just too dumb to fold imo. . . . . put is a perfect move for all stations that adopt this approach to poker. .  . .