whats your move?

[treydj]

hi all,

this hand occured last night, read on the guy is that he is reasonably solid - hasnt showed down anything too weird.  i had raised the previous 2 hands and this was my 3rd button raise on the bounce. we had all made the money at this stage.

thoughts please - then the reveal.

Table 250 - 500/1000 Ante 125 - No Limit Hold'em - 19:25:39 ET - 2009/06/08
Seat 1: leebo438 (41,137)
Seat 2: GaIa86 (52,016)
Seat 3: SpeckVIP (14,000)
Seat 4: totalpants (28,446)
Seat 5: kinderchiu (42,604)
Seat 6: VANO777 (16,786)
leebo438 antes 125
GaIa86 antes 125
SpeckVIP antes 125
totalpants antes 125
kinderchiu antes 125
VANO777 antes 125
kinderchiu posts the small blind of 500
VANO777 posts the big blind of 1,000
The button is in seat #4
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to totalpants [ ]
leebo438 folds
GaIa86 folds
SpeckVIP folds
totalpants raises to 2,557
kinderchiu folds
VANO777 raises to 16,661, and is all in

[Mikeyboy9361]

Well its an easy one to get away from, admittedly he may think you are "at it" as this is your 3rd button raise, and he is making a stand with any two, and you do have a decent starting hand, but you"ve only committed 2500 chips, and you will still have approx 26k behind. So for me its an easy fold and wait for a better spot to get your chips in first.

[deanp27]

i don"t often raise/fold AJ from the button - and no reason to do so here. Unless you have no reason to believe he is getting fed up of you rasing from the button.


fwiw i probably call with a10 too

[mal666]

good work so far now finish the job and call

[Roscopiko]

insta fold for me

[Eck]

good work so far now finish the job and call

[Honeybadg]

What is the prize structure?

How much edge do you feel you have over this player and other players left?

Opponent could have anything - call/fold depends on the above.

L

[Marty719]

This is def a call a large % of the time!!  His range is very wide in this spot and includes a lot of hands that u have dominated imo.  If u win this hand then u r putting urself in a very good spot to go ahead and get a big finish in the tourney, and if u lose it...m"eh...u still have 12bb"s which is enough to battle back and grind up!!

[jbworldwide]

I reckon he has either a pair up to QQ or any Ace to shove here, if you say he is pretty solid.

I think at best you are flipping.

how much gamble do you have? I would def tank this and think about how he has played before, but probably end up calling because I am a donk like that  

[deanp27]

can those who are insta-folding please assign some ranges to villain?

[AMRN]

can those who are insta-folding please assign some ranges to villain?

Agree range is wide, but that range does include a fair few hands that are either marginally ahead or have you dominated. AJ is a reasonable hand to be shoving with - not sure I would want to be calling with it in this spot whilst still holding a decent stack though.    I"m not in the insta-fold category here, but I"m not in the insta-call category either.....  I think the situation varies dependant on what the money ladder looks like and where we are currently sat.

[Mikeyboy9361]

I"m not an insta fold, but I think I would think and fold. He is "reasonably solid" not done anything "weird". So you have to put him on something decent like any pair up to , or a biggish Ace.
For some reason I assumed this was the FT, and I wouldn"t coin flip on the FT if I had this stack, depending on where we are in the tourney then I may call.

[Marty719]

If we are playing to give ourselves a good chance of winning then I think this is a def call.  Despite how solid, he still needs to make a move reasonably soon and if u had been opening more than the others at the table I think his range is wider against u.  I think it"s prob 22-AA, A8+, KJ+, and even some air if he is a thinking player that knows their is FE and thinks u have been opening light.  Plus......people always suspect the button!

[jbworldwide]

If we are playing to give ourselves a good chance of winning then I think this is a def call.  Despite how solid, he still needs to make a move reasonably soon and if u had been opening more than the others at the table I think his range is wider against u.  I think it"s prob 22-AA, A8+, KJ+, and even some air if he is a thinking player that knows their is FE and thinks u have been opening light.  Plus......people always respect the button!

FYP  

[bigredders]

depends entirely on what your mission is....to ladder or to win the tournament... u then have your answer