Is it ever wrong to risk your stack with the nuts?

[WarBwastardo]

To me the "nuts" is the best possible hand on the river.  The "nuts at the moment" is a contradiction in terms especially in PLO.

[antthecat]

it was the nuts on the flop, even if they call with a draw and hit you can redraw to a full or quads, i would overbet making their call incorrect as pot odds vs %of hitting their draw is not enough, im not going into implied odds as that is a subject that everyone thinks that im wrong.

i see what you mean as it is early in a tourney but any pot when or where in a tourney when i have the best of it at the time im betting, raising, shoving as i believe that you need every chip in play to win the tourney( i cant talk from experience but it does make sense what i have learnt)

just unlucky, next time you will have a stack to bully weaker players.

[duke3016]

SIGH -- just SIGH -- one time it will be me

[kinboshi]

To me the "nuts" is the best possible hand on the river.  The "nuts at the moment" is a contradiction in terms especially in PLO.

The "stone-cold nuts" is the nuts on the river (or the nuts that can"t be beaten on subsequent streets if it"s not the river yet).

Having the "best hand" is one where people use different definitions.  On the flop you might have bottom pair crap kicker and are currently beating someone with the open-ended straight flush draw and two over cards - but who has the "best hand"?

Anyway, this is all irrelevant.    :: is the nuts.

[George2Loose]

if u dont wanna get it in, dont raise.

[WYoung83]

depends how deep stacked players are. In a online crap shoot, he has to raise the guy and get it all in on flop. There are so many draws out there,

in a very deepstack tourney or evan a cash game with over 200 BB, then you can play a bit of small ball to keep the pot under controll and see what happens on the next street.

[mattblue]

steve just gets it allin with or with out his nuts lol

[UKChamp]

what sort of question is this?

[ZZZZZZZROPE]

short answer no lol. pretty sick to ever consider folding here

[Mikeyboy9361]

You gotta call here, but I quite like the other guys play, putting you to a very difficult decision for all your stack. "Scandicrusher" did that to me about 1 and a half hours in on Saturday, I called, my hand held and that kick started my tourney. I could have folded and waited for a "better" spot, that never comes, and a double up certainly gets you moving in a deepstacked tourney!

[George2Loose]

would be pretty com if you folded and he showed you bottom set

[WYoung83]

exactly, when two plyrs have set over set on the flop. All the money will usually go in from both players protecting their hand against such a draw heavy board.

To be honest for the structure of the tourny, it was standard play from both players, evan if some people think the guy with the draw was a bit crazy, you have to ask yourself will he get a better spot to doubble up in the next few levels?