PLO live cash game

[LongshanksED]

After a recnt pub poker session the usual cash game started up. Now most pub players I at with are pretty standard but this week the guy that runs the pub league had a load of his mates come this week to bolster numbers.

Now the guy that run it had worke in 2 different casinos as card room manger/tourney director and also semi plays online for a living (he claim to try to grind £50 a day for his play money/drinking money etc). His mates are all casino croupiers and also work in the local casino cardrooms as dealers so these guy are mostly well knowledged in how to play.

So cash game starts. 5 handed. 10p/20p (fun game)  Dealers choice of Texas Holdem or PLO! After a few hands it"s obvious one guy doesn"t know how to play PLO but trying to learn but the 3 others at the table know how to play are admitadlly better than me.

So in my sb  dealt . It"s limped to me so I pot it £1 at me so another £1 to go. All fold except the novice who calls on the button

AQK rainbow. Know I don"t know where I am. Reckon novice has 2 pairs but feel a pot sized bet with my set of kings will win a showdown so £3 goes in. Novice calls.  £9 pot roughly.

J turn that puts 2 hearts on the board. now I have 2 sets but it"s a bad card for me if opp had a piece of the board with a 10 in his hand then I"m not looking good but if he did have anykind of straight still have outs of possibly 3 aces, 3 queens 3 10,s (if novice had a 10 in his hand) case jack and case king. I have £15 left and decide to pot it in. Villan calls and I"m  left with £6. River is a 10 but also a heart making a flush possible. I stick the last £6 in my straight as I feel
if I check I can"t fold for £6 to win a £35+ pot so I jam it in 1st and villan calls. I reckon he has rivered a flush but turns out he had A998 rainbow hand. So I scoop the lot at which point te 3 others said my plays were terrible (and the semi pro cardroom manaager claims he wouldve made the flush)

so we play it out again and they all agree the  pot bet was right pre flop but on the flop leading out was wrong. O said I thought that I had to lead out to win the pot hopefully there without a showdown. They all said it was too risky if I got re raised then I"m forced to call. My arguemeby was that if I was re popped by the novice I can"t put him on AA as 2 were already put. Maybe j10 for the flopped syriaght but if that qasthe case then I still had around 10 outs for a full house or quads to win or the 10 for a straight.

Against more than one player id be  a bit more passive but still try to isolate 1 of the others but against only 1 I"d bet my middle set all the way
Thoughts?

[deanp27]

my thoughts are that i would like to play the other guy HU4ROLLZ at PLO and i am a relative novice

[AMRN]

passive poker = losing poker.

Aggression is the order of the  day here, especially knowing the other guy doesn"t know what he"s doing and will call you with as little as top pair. Also, a novice would rarely slow play the nuts, so you can pretty much discount the flopped straight in this scenario.

[Cyntaf]

Well played, sounds to me as if you got what his so called mates were after, his wedge. It"s ok to listen to others opinions and take on board their thought processes, but you followed yours and it worked out fine. Perhaps they were also expecting the level of play in the (PUB), to be lower than the level you played at. I"ve always found in pub games that people will berate you for anything, even betting the stone cold nuts, as a lot can only see their own cards and not think laterally or outside the box, or even passed their four cards? They have read a passage of a book, or been given advice from someone. They take this sample of data and take it as set in stone, player A does x so player B must follow y etc. there is no room for change of circumstances, the book says" blah blah blah". If you argue back, then OOh you think you know better than Harrington/ Sklansky whoever. You can"t win, act daft say oh sorry and lick your lips on the way home, eating the curry that they have just paid for

Wow, where did that come from, sorry Hope you got something from that blurt Long?

[hi_am_chris]

I think the turn could be played differently, if ur going to bet call maybe its better to check call as its a good card for him to bluff (ok hes a novice so maybe not the best line against this specific player). you got max value against this player but maybe value owning urself against good players