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AceOnTheRiver

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Multiple Choice Question
« on: December 16, 2009, 14:03:38 PM »
Yes, there is a thinly disguised Bad Beat story at the heart of this but I am curious to know what the majority would have done here.

£20 F/O with 5K starting stack. I have 6K, villian has me covered just. I have seen him before and don"t have much info on him but he"s not a complete fish.

UTG+1 I have AA and raise to 300 (L2 50/100), folds to SB who raises to 1200. BB folds.

Would you

A) Call
B) Make a raise between 2,400 & 3,600 total
C) Shove
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Re: Multiple Choice Question
« Reply #1 on: December 16, 2009, 14:06:18 PM »
Mix it up between all 3
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Re: Multiple Choice Question
« Reply #2 on: December 16, 2009, 14:11:01 PM »
Shove.
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Re: Multiple Choice Question
« Reply #3 on: December 16, 2009, 14:23:22 PM »
prolly shove but sometimes call, nothing in between. Trouble is live players 3bet/fold too many good hands, this is why calling can sometimes be the only way to get his QQ/AK type hands all in.
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Re: Multiple Choice Question
« Reply #4 on: December 16, 2009, 15:13:43 PM »
shove

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Re: Multiple Choice Question
« Reply #5 on: December 16, 2009, 15:22:21 PM »
Fold
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Re: Multiple Choice Question
« Reply #6 on: December 16, 2009, 15:41:40 PM »

Fold


There"s always one... and it"s usually you Jon  :).

You would have folded if you were SB as you know from Sunday I never open weak  ::)
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Re: Multiple Choice Question
« Reply #7 on: December 16, 2009, 16:42:08 PM »
mix it up between A and C. deffo not doing B. 4 betting 40% of your stack is effectively going all in anyway.

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Re: Multiple Choice Question
« Reply #8 on: December 16, 2009, 16:50:47 PM »

mix it up between A and C. deffo not doing B. 4 betting 40% of your stack is effectively going all in anyway.
I"m shoving in this situation.


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Re: Multiple Choice Question
« Reply #9 on: December 16, 2009, 18:10:05 PM »
Unless I"m up against a super nit here I probably flat and try to get it in on the flop or turn.

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Re: Multiple Choice Question
« Reply #10 on: December 17, 2009, 13:49:24 PM »
Why shove here?
By 3betting you might get him to call you"re 3bet or push all in himself. If you shove on him he"s probably folding hands you have crushed like AK/AQ which wouldn"t be a good result
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Re: Multiple Choice Question
« Reply #11 on: December 17, 2009, 14:52:10 PM »

Why shove here?



it depends but some people are happy to get TT-QQ/AQ/AK in pre here after 3betting, who may fold if they miss the flop or overcards come to their pocket pair. Depends on the opponent

also he has 3bet - a shove or raise by us will be a 4bet. A 4bet by us that doesn"t go all in might as well include a sign saying "i have aces"
« Last Edit: December 17, 2009, 14:53:55 PM by deanp27 »
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Re: Multiple Choice Question
« Reply #12 on: December 17, 2009, 20:02:25 PM »
im re-thinking this one, my gut is telling me i should raise but i also see the advantages of calling but i really hate calling with aces pre, better to raise to induce a shove and then leave it to the gods. If its worth a call then its worth a raise!
If you raise he has 2 options both of which could pay off, he can call or shove!
If you shove he has 2 options where only one of which will possibly pay you off. he"l call or fold.

id raise and leave him with the decision!
« Last Edit: December 17, 2009, 20:09:55 PM by maverick1 »

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Re: Multiple Choice Question
« Reply #13 on: December 18, 2009, 16:35:52 PM »
Thanks for the responses - Like Maverick1 I hate calling with Aces pre (always fearful that they catch-up) so I opted to shove.

The responses tell me that no-one thinks this is a bad play although some see merit in calling.

In this case Villain tank-called with Pocket 9s (Pocket ******* 9s...... for all but 600 of his stack) and spiked on the turn so Ironically calling and then moving in on the Kxx flop would have taken it down.
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Re: Multiple Choice Question
« Reply #14 on: December 27, 2009, 01:14:48 AM »

Thanks for the responses - Like Maverick1 I hate calling with Aces pre (always fearful that they catch-up) so I opted to shove.

The responses tell me that no-one thinks this is a bad play although some see merit in calling.

In this case Villain tank-called with Pocket 9s (Pocket ******* 9s...... for all but 600 of his stack) and spiked on the turn so Ironically calling and then moving in on the Kxx flop would have taken it down.


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