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Re: APAT Over Subscribed ! Whats the answer ?
« Reply #30 on: October 10, 2007, 17:50:00 PM »
A great idea Alan. ;D







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Re: APAT Over Subscribed ! Whats the answer ?
« Reply #31 on: October 10, 2007, 17:57:18 PM »
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Re: APAT Over Subscribed ! Whats the answer ?
« Reply #32 on: October 10, 2007, 18:04:35 PM »
Des it looks like you"ve created a monster!

Of course we needed a large membership if those in charge of the casino groups were going listen to us and also offer good sponsorship deals for the Apat tour.

Of course the trouble now is with well over probably 2000 members and National events, which the vast majority of the membership want to play in, that can only cater for 150-200 at a time, there are bound to be disappointments.
The problem now is trying to keep everybody happy so that you dont end up with people becoming disenchanted and leaving the Apat community.

So my idea for what its worth is this.

If you play in a National event the only way you can play in the next one is by qualifying, either live or online. So you"ve still got a chance, through ability, to play in every event but it means that National places will be shared out amongst the membership.

Just an idea, what do you think.






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Re: APAT Over Subscribed ! Whats the answer ?
« Reply #33 on: October 10, 2007, 18:21:13 PM »

So my idea for what its worth is this.

If you play in a National event the only way you can play in the next one is by qualifying, either live or online. So you"ve still got a chance, through ability, to play in every event but it means that National places will be shared out amongst the membership.

Just an idea, what do you think.


I think that there should always be room at Nationals/World events for those who wish to buy-in direct. (You know the ones, like me, who can afford it but just donk off at the tables...you WANT me there...I"m dead money! ;D)

However, the number of seats available for direct buy-in is already limited to a great extent.

If the Regionals had been full, there were, I think 100 (50%) seats going...that"s further reduced by online sats (another 30+ or so [15%]) leaving about 60/70 (35% let"s say) available.

2/3 could have got there on "talent". Of course, that didn"t happen in Leg 1 but I think that will be the norm for the later stages of Season 2.

That seems a reasonable ratio to me.

The real answer...bigger cardrooms...DTD can hold 450+ and the market is, IMHO, there to keep it (and others) in business. Of course, (again IMHO) the casino groups don"t want bigger cardrooms as it would appear they believe that it takes trade away from their core business, table games.

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Re: APAT Over Subscribed ! Whats the answer ?
« Reply #34 on: October 10, 2007, 18:38:39 PM »
I"m not advocating getting rid of direct buy-ins. Just that if you"ve played in a National event you are not permitted to buy-in into the next one, but you can qualify.
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Re: APAT Over Subscribed ! Whats the answer ?
« Reply #35 on: October 10, 2007, 18:59:56 PM »

I think a lot of the inconsistency with regard to who is successful in the clickfest is simply down to the payment processors site being overwhelmed at 21:00.

Perhaps phasing the the buy-ins would be the answer. How about...

21:00-21:04 Open the buy-in link to all members whose christian name begins with A...
21:05-21:09 Open the buy-in link to all members whose christian name begins with B...
21:10-21:14 Open the buy-in link to all members whose christian name begins with C...
21:15-21:19 Open the buy-in link to all members whose christian name begins with D...
etc...
etc...





What do you think?



I"m 100% behind this proposal!

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Re: APAT Over Subscribed ! Whats the answer ?
« Reply #36 on: October 10, 2007, 19:09:38 PM »

I"m not advocating getting rid of direct buy-ins. Just that if you"ve played in a National event you are not permitted to buy-in into the next one, but you can qualify.


Hardy fair is someone qualifies for one that they can"t play in the next.  Also what about the points leaderboard?
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Re: APAT Over Subscribed ! Whats the answer ?
« Reply #37 on: October 10, 2007, 19:28:02 PM »


I"m not advocating getting rid of direct buy-ins. Just that if you"ve played in a National event you are not permitted to buy-in into the next one, but you can qualify.


Hardy fair is someone qualifies for one that they can"t play in the next.  Also what about the points leaderboard?


I"d have thought you"d be in favour of my suggestion aDniel? :)
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Re: APAT Over Subscribed ! Whats the answer ?
« Reply #38 on: October 10, 2007, 19:30:10 PM »
I"ve sent my applicaiton to deed poll.

Changing my name to 0000001AAAAAAAAAAAADaniel...

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Re: APAT Over Subscribed ! Whats the answer ?
« Reply #39 on: October 10, 2007, 22:24:29 PM »
Can"t see a solution around the problem of who wants to enter being able to.  Unfortunately its never easy to please everyone. 

I bubbled in London and had a problem with my computer so wasn"t able to connect immediately and missed out on the click fest.  As advised I immediately sent my email off to Des requesting that I be put be the alternates list.  So I am patiently waiting knowing quite a few people will have personal reasons why they can"t go or may just not want to. 

None of the players in the ranking list get preferential treatment, nor those of us with our pictures on the Apat Home page banner.  We are all treated the same and we will all have to be patient and see what happens.

So a note to those of you that have seats and can"t attend please let Des know at the earliest opportunity.  He can then put those of us waiting out of our misery....  ;)

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Re: APAT Over Subscribed ! Whats the answer ?
« Reply #40 on: October 10, 2007, 22:39:43 PM »

Would somebody please teach me how to use the forum quote function!


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Re: APAT Over Subscribed ! Whats the answer ?
« Reply #41 on: October 13, 2007, 15:26:35 PM »

Allowing alternates would ease the pain!  ::)

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Certainly would...are you saying this isn"t going to happen ,now the law is allowing this?

Basically I think there needs to be more focus on qualifing through the regionals,and online....with any left overs going on a clickfest.
With the regionals....put up the buy in..... and make more seats (ie 1 in 5). Make sure there are dealers and a buffet......and therefore encourage more to attend to qualify/make money/ and most importantly enjoy the day!!

The message should be if you want a seat in the nationals,you have to play poker first!

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Re: APAT Over Subscribed ! Whats the answer ?
« Reply #42 on: October 13, 2007, 23:39:10 PM »
could we not just have 2 or 3 day 1"s and allow 600 to play?
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Re: APAT Over Subscribed ! Whats the answer ?
« Reply #43 on: October 14, 2007, 08:33:38 AM »

could we not just have 2 or 3 day 1"s and allow 600 to play?


Three day 1s? I think you need to think that one through a little more carefully!  ;)

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Re: APAT Over Subscribed ! Whats the answer ?
« Reply #44 on: October 14, 2007, 09:28:17 AM »
In my opinion it hard to call it the "English Championship" unless a structure exists that allows everyone to qualify - and we have the regionals/onliners to do just that. However I"d like APAT to eliminate all the £75 direct buy-in lottery and increase the number of qualifying places in the regionals. I wouldt give the £75 cash or ticket option. Players at the regionals should be members of APAT not just locals who happend to turn up for a game and have no interest in APAT or the championships.