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Re: Online League - Team Tactics/Soft Play
« Reply #30 on: August 24, 2010, 19:52:57 PM »

Can posting in the chatbox while the hand is in play , be considered Open Collusion ?, I dont know, I"ll let others decide.


Obviously depends what said. After a player shoves, if they say...

1: "who"s on my team then?"

2: "I have the nuts - you should fold"

1 is ok and part of the whole team banter stuff. 2 is collusion and is a no-no


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Re: Online League - Team Tactics/Soft Play
« Reply #31 on: August 24, 2010, 20:00:50 PM »

Waz

Can posting in the chatbox while the hand is in play , be considered Open Collusion ?, I dont know, I"ll let others decide.


I guess so..such as in AMRN quote..


Can posting in the chatbox while the hand is in play , be considered Open Collusion ?, I dont know, I"ll let others decide.


Obviously depends what said. After a player shoves, if they say...

1: "who"s on my team then?"

2: "I have the nuts - you should fold"

1 is ok and part of the whole team banter stuff. 2 is collusion and is a no-no




But in the case in hand..was it?  I guess you have already answered that by pointing it out in the first place?  so really irrelavant what others think, as you clearly think it was!

Would be good to know some of the details, if not to clear things up (if this is what you want - sorry don"t mean to assume!)..but it could serve as a "case study" to what is regarding as Team Play and Open (or private) collusion.

That said, it could be deemed as one of those " in my opinion" types.  Differcult for sure.

But i sincerlely hope you re-think it over.(cold light and all that)..and I hope you do change your mind about not playing more.

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Re: Online League - Team Tactics/Soft Play
« Reply #32 on: August 24, 2010, 20:58:59 PM »
I just wish we has enough players in the Sheffield team  that play to be accused of this .LOL :D
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Re: Online League - Team Tactics/Soft Play
« Reply #33 on: August 24, 2010, 21:02:50 PM »

I just wish we has enough players in the Sheffield team  that play to be accused of this .LOL :D


I know what you mean - Brighton is the same. We need players  :(

Just thought we could amalgamate teams and become Breffield  ;D

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Re: Online League - Team Tactics/Soft Play
« Reply #34 on: August 24, 2010, 21:07:12 PM »


I just wish we has enough players in the Sheffield team  that play to be accused of this .LOL :D


I know what you mean - Brighton is the same. We need players  :(

Just thought we could amalgamate teams and become Breffield  ;D


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Re: Online League - Team Tactics/Soft Play
« Reply #35 on: August 24, 2010, 21:52:46 PM »


I just wish we has enough players in the Sheffield team  that play to be accused of this .LOL :D


I know what you mean - Brighton is the same. We need players  :(

Just thought we could amalgamate teams and become Breffield  ;D


Breffield?  Not Shighton?

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Re: Online League - Team Tactics/Soft Play
« Reply #36 on: August 24, 2010, 21:54:23 PM »



I just wish we has enough players in the Sheffield team  that play to be accused of this .LOL :D


I know what you mean - Brighton is the same. We need players  :(

Just thought we could amalgamate teams and become Breffield  ;D


Breffield?  Not Shighton?




LOL do you know I actually did it that way round to begin with but knew everyone would take the mick !!!


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Re: Online League - Team Tactics/Soft Play
« Reply #37 on: August 24, 2010, 22:11:10 PM »

LOL do you know I actually did it that way round to begin with but knew everyone would take the mick !!!


Hmmm now is that a dig at people of my nationality - where is the number of the race relations ombudsman  ;D

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Re: Online League - Team Tactics/Soft Play
« Reply #38 on: August 24, 2010, 22:26:58 PM »


LOL do you know I actually did it that way round to begin with but knew everyone would take the mick !!!


Hmmm now is that a dig at people of my nationality - where is the number of the race relations ombudsman  ;D


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Re: Online League - Team Tactics/Soft Play
« Reply #39 on: August 25, 2010, 00:39:04 AM »



Last night in div 2

I raised  :as: qc only to be reraised and put me nearly all in  by my nottingham Team captain with  ah ks of course i called cos i am a fish and i spiked a queen to knock him out!!!  No collusion there!!!

Down to 10 players and on the points bubble.   Only 2 of us from Nottingham left.  We go to war against each other and both are all in.  No soft play or collusion from Nottingham thats for sure!!!


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Re: Online League - Team Tactics/Soft Play
« Reply #40 on: August 25, 2010, 00:57:59 AM »
If stuff is being typed in the chatbox while the hand is still in play by team-mates, then that is different. THAT is cheating.....and I would report those involved to Betfair and APAT and I would hope that if Betfair agree that it was going on, that APAT should ban them from playing.
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Re: Online League - Team Tactics/Soft Play
« Reply #41 on: August 25, 2010, 01:00:25 AM »

Showdown,

My initial post was not to look for the rules, or the spirit of team games to be changed to please me. I just came across something that didn"t sit well with me.  As previous posters have pointed out, I either accept it or not, I have chosen not to, no big deal, just disappointing, as I thoroughly enjoyed representing my area (albeit, sometimes as a lone rep).
I understand that softplay is part of it,as much as i dislike it, but comments in the chat box when the hand isnt finished is a no-no for me. I have experienced it on other sites, but this was the first in an APAT event that I have encountered. It may well have been an isolated incident, but once is enough for me, a bit hasty some may say, but there you go.

I will always play in the APAT events, it just wont be the League games.



I too am interested in what actually happened to make you so disheartened.

I was at one time in the game sat with 3 team players on the same table so wracking my brain as to whether I might have said something. I did have a few shandies that night but I am pretty sure I would never announce my hand in chat while the hand was in progress. I did tease a fellow teammate when he raised my bb saying I had AA but that was just messing :-)

You HAVE to expect soft play in a team event, the word TEAM says it all. You want as many members getting to the final table as possible. If I have JJ and raise preflop and then a team member goes allin I am folding...not collusion just common sense coz 1. he probably has a better hand and 2. if he hasnt then my chips stay in the team...tbh I might call someone on another team coz im a fish but does that make it collusion?

I really hope no one is using msn etc...I know it does go on but I hope for a $10 league game no one has stooped that low.

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Re: Online League - Team Tactics/Soft Play
« Reply #42 on: August 25, 2010, 01:12:37 AM »

but I hope for a $10 league game no one has stooped that low.


ooops  ;D

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Re: Online League - Team Tactics/Soft Play
« Reply #43 on: August 25, 2010, 01:22:06 AM »


LOL do you know I actually did it that way round to begin with but knew everyone would take the mick !!!


Hmmm now is that a dig at people of my nationality - where is the number of the race relations ombudsman  ;D


English ?  You were born in England according to information gleaned.
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Re: Online League - Team Tactics/Soft Play
« Reply #44 on: August 25, 2010, 01:23:21 AM »


Last night in div 2

I raised  :as: qc only to be reraised and put me nearly all in  by my nottingham Team captain with  ah ks of course i called cos i am a fish and i spiked a queen to knock him out!!!  No collusion there!!!

Down to 10 players and on the points bubble.   Only 2 of us from Nottingham left.  We go to war against each other and both are all in.  No soft play or collusion from Nottingham thats for sure!!!


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