Critics: Anything I did wrong please?

[LongshanksED]

Personally Im happy the way I played it just not the outcome

Local pub league regional final. 10k starting stack, 130 runners, 90 left, top 10 paid (£500 for first from £10 buy in), top 12 get seat to national freeroll final with around £2.5k for first in a months time

after building up to 32k, top 10 in chips, this happens

Blinds 200/400 (no ante)

I"ve been opening-3 betting lots of speculative hands in position. Mostly against very bad players but rarely get to showdown. When it has I"ve always had a big hand like top 2 pair, set/trips or better and managed to do move like
Check raises all in etc

I"m in sb with ace 10 diamonds and a very tight player opens to 800 he has about 25k and is only one at table that can damage my stack effectively as everyone else has less than 8-10k.

Folds to me and I don"t like raising or folding this deep in chips so I call (1st mistake?)

Flop q j 7  with q and 7 diamonds

Ive already decides to check raise with my gunshot and flush draws (?)

I check and opponent over bets 4k into the pot. He"s done this alot with single pair and I auto shove all in thinking he has enough  fold equity (?)

Villian tanks for a good minute at least and calls with kj but says "you have a set right?, that"s how you"ve played them before?" and I turn over my drawing hand and miss everything.

Thought? Had I won that i was clear chip leader of the tourney!

[Foggy]

I think you have already answered your own questions.

1....Dont like the call,

2....Think there must be a mis-type because there is no kd, on the flop

3....How come you have already decided what action to take before he bets, given that you had already stated that he was a tight player!

4....You might have been chip leader , IF you had won the hand, but I fear your first action in point 1, has led to your downfall

[LongshanksED]

Sorry it was a mistype. and on flop.

[deanp27]

standard fold pre - would you call OOP if they were unsuited?

postflop i would also do a CRAI but pre is pretty bad imo

[Marty719]

very tight opponent + oop + marginal hand + only player who can hurt you = really easy fold pre

fold>3bet>call

[MintTrav]

Guess he wasn"t such a tight player after all!

[kinboshi]

[kinboshi]

[MintTrav]

Guess he wasn"t such a tight player after all!

If he was on the button, then there"s nothing wrong with raising with that hand if it"s folded round to him - even for a tight player.  He has position, a hand he knows where he is (especially on that flop) and he"s also aware the damage he can do with his stack.

Sure, but he"s also bet 4k into a 2k pot and called an all-in for 20k extra with middle pair when he suspects we have a set.

[kinboshi]

Guess he wasn"t such a tight player after all!

If he was on the button, then there"s nothing wrong with raising with that hand if it"s folded round to him - even for a tight player.  He has position, a hand he knows where he is (especially on that flop) and he"s also aware the damage he can do with his stack.

Sure, but he"s also bet 4k into a 2k pot and called an all-in for 20k extra with middle pair when he suspects we have a set.

Of course, that suggests he"s anything but a tight player.  But we didn"t know that until the showdown from what the OP told us.  His pre-flop play still fits the profile of a tight player - his post-flop play is obviously terrible if he has second pair and thinks his opponent has him beaten and then calls his stack off for another 20K!

I actually thought there was a mistake in the OP and the other player had flopped two pair, but I see that whatever the mistake was has now been corrected.

[AMRN]

as soon as you have pegged him as a very tight player who happens to have the only stack at the table that can hurt you, why on earth do you want to get involved with a marginal raggy ace?

Insta-fold preflop!

[kinboshi]

[GarethC]

Where are you when the flop comes Axx? Winning against a big pair or crushed by AK/AQ?

[AMRN]

as soon as you have pegged him as a very tight player who happens to have the only stack at the table that can hurt you, why on earth do you want to get involved with a marginal raggy ace?

Insta-fold preflop!

To give you the opportunity to stack him, an opportunity that is less likely with a loose player.

but that"s only going to happen on a perfect flop - so you"re advocating calling with ATdd to try and hit a flush or straight, or some weird 2pair or trips hand......  surely a better hand to do that with would be something like 56s.... this hand is in danger of hitting the flop sideways and costing you a bunch of chips

[Marty719]

I def think 3b is way better than flat kin.  Firstly, we can win the pot there and then.  If we get 4bet we have a very easy lay down.  If we get flatted then at least we have the betting lead so will win on most flops.  It saves us calling off in dominated spots.

I cant see many pro"s to flatting, while 3b"n gives us a chance at winning the pot.  How strong does our hand look 3b"n a "very tight player" from the sb!