APAT Season 5: Discussion

[Foggy]

Any chance of having a tournament where we don"t have a long journey?

London has been the only one anywhere near the South and that is halfway to the Midlands from here anyway.

Or compromise with a second one in London instead of going to some no-mans-land like Walsall or Bolton.

All you have to do is find the venue and suggest it to Richard or Leigh. Then again, I seem to recall that this has come up before and there wasn"t one willing &/or able to host it.

Either way, wherever events are held there will be long journey for someone. I don"t imagine our Scottish / Irish / Welsh/ N.England members are too enthused about London.

Thats one of the problems living in an area where if you go South, you get wet!!!!

Perhaps you should relocate to the sunny Midlands, then your travelling could include south as well?

[Paulie_D]

doesn"t APAT try to replicate good tournaments at an affordable buy-in?

...and who says it"s a "good" thing?

I don"t.

[SirPercival]

Tell the truth Tighty, Brighton don"t want to see APAT ever again after Scottish pissheads of Season 2.

[Foggy]

Tell the truth Tighty, Brighton don"t want to see APAT ever again after Scottish pissheads of Season 2.

Do the Scots drink a lot then?

[MintTrav]

I don"t know about the additional venues that you linked to but it"s an APAT requirement that the venues are fully and appropriately licensed.

even if a venue is licenced etc we need to have comfort that they can manage everything with us, efficiently. From capacity, to food, to TD, to dealers, to cashier to disabled access, parking etc

In essence, a venue needs to be an experienced provider of the services needed to put on poker events for third parties.

Just for the record, they are both licensed. They have both held Regional / National events for LPPL or Nuts pub leagues, who probably put away more booze than happens at APAT events (no offence intended). Shuffles would probably hold 150, Phoenix 200. They are not casinos, so no other attractions, except the cash tables and the bar. Oh, and both have half a dozen computers with online poker and free internet, pool, free snooker, heads-up machines.......

[Paulie_D]

Just for the record, they are both licensed.

They are not casinos.

I think you may have misunderstood...they have to have a Casino Licence...from what you said, it sounds like they don"t...or perhaps I"m the one who"s misunderstood.

[Chipaccrual]

Just for the record, they are both licensed.

They are not casinos.

I think you may have misunderstood...they have to have a Casino Licence...from what you said, it sounds like they don"t...or perhaps I"m the one who"s misunderstood.

That"s the key factor.

[MintTrav]

Just for the record, they are both licensed.

They are not casinos.

I think you may have misunderstood...they have to have a Casino Licence...from what you said, it sounds like they don"t...or perhaps I"m the one who"s misunderstood.

Didn"t know that. Why?
I know they have some kind of licence to hold poker tournaments cos the owner of one of them was talking about it, but don"t know the details. How do hotel tournaments work then? Oh, and that reminds me, any idea what happened re the idea of APAT moving out of casinos into hotels, or is that dead?

[Paulie_D]

I think you may have misunderstood...they have to have a Casino Licence

How do hotel tournaments work then?

Oh, and that reminds me, any idea what happened re the idea of APAT moving out of casinos into hotels, or is that dead?

I checked this with Tighty some time ago and to do this the organisation (APAT/EPT etc) has to have something called a "travelling licence" (I think). It"s not cheap and, IIRC, it would also involve APAT in having their own tables, chips, TD etc. etc. all of which would have to be transported to and from venues and stored in between.

Not an economic proposition.

As for why the venues have to hold a casino licence, AFAIK, if they don"t then there is strong likelihood of the tournament contravening the Gambling Act due to the stakes involved. DTD spent £1m or so just to get a full casino licence because (at the time) there was no such thing as a full poker licence.

Some of the above is pretty broad and quite possibly out of date but if you have a delve round the Gambling Commission website I think you"ll be quite surprised at how much of what is going on in Poker Clubs is skirting the legislation.

[thinsy147]

Is it just me that gets excited every time a new post comes up on this thread..... And then unhappy because it"s not a post about the new season confirmed dates    

Oh well, as they say in the forum world:

B U M P  

[SirPercival]

yeah, it"s just you  

[duke3016]

Today I mapped out all the projects I have lined up for 2011/2012. These are set into a notes database accessible by me only. I get asked frequently for definative dates to be published. I say "still in the planning stage and a few details to finalise and I will publish the dates".  (Notice I never say "soon")

I can only say this for so long before I get a slap  

The reason I won"t publish the dates is of course the imminent announcement of Season 5, due end of Feb. When Season 5 is announced the 2011/2012 project tasks and milestones will mysteriously change and they will get published. Sometimes it"s good to be the Projects Manager.

Now all I need is for the APAT powers that be to put fingers to keys and get the season schedule up on the site. It might save me from getting a slap.

[ronaldo07]

I really hope you don"t get that slap when it could have been avoided.

[SirPercival]

ok, a couple of questions which in theory should be easy to answer.

1. How soon is soon?

If we were "likely" to have an announcement by the end of the month.

2. How likely is likely?

[Chipaccrual]

ok, a couple of questions which in theory should be easy to answer.

1. How soon is soon?

If we were "likely" to have an announcement by the end of the month.

2. How likely is likely?

1 Very soon

2 Very likely (Give or take a day or two)