The subject of playing oop to call a raise or 3bet is rather a big one lol lol, it all depends, i know, its not a cop out, it just is... I"ll try to explain it as how i view it..
If the stealer is raising 60% of hands over a large sample and we have seen him call 3bets when in position with over half his range, then now we have a point to start from to work out what to fold, call or 3bet... Right, in broad terms a good way to approach what to fold, call or 3bet depends on villains call range, thus it makes sense to re-raise [3bet] our value range which is ahead of villains call range, in general it would also be good to mix in 3bet hands that maybe be ahead of villains range but don"t play well post flop.. Our middle of the range stuff, the part of our range that is near the top of villains range but not ahead of, then it is best to call with.. If you"re a poor player oop then fold the calling range imho lol lol and work on your reads, or 3bet it if villain folds 70%+ times... All the above is when you have reads, when u have reads then if say shoz 3bet knowing he was going to get called 50% of the time then views can be formed as to what say such and such is bad to 3bet or call etc etc,, without knowing how often villain folds, calls or 4bets our 3bets,or even postflop how often does he fold to a cbet can any1 give a good answer to u shoz.. Thus you get the consensus that 3betting Q6s with not many reads is not generally seen as ideal
Now that i"ve opened that can of worms, lets assume villain calls shoz with 50% of his stealing range..
yes i know its wide lol...
it would look something like -
22+,A2s+,K4s+,Q8s+,J8s+,T8s+,98s,87s,A8o+,K9o+,Q9o+,J9o+,T9o
what hands would u re-raise with?
what if any hands would u call with?
[this is aimed at shoz, if any1 else wants to have a stab at answering then please do so]
tighter still, villain calls only 15% of his 60% steal range -
55+,A9s+,K9s+,Q9s+,JTs,T9s,ATo+,KJo+,QJo
so again, what hands would u re-raise with?
what if any hands would u call with?
now that villain folds 75% of the time, does this make a difference to the above?
[this is aimed at shoz, if any1 else wants to have a stab at answering then please do so]
just something to get the old noodle working
On Paul"s point about the 60% steal, if say we are on the button and we know the blinds call or re-raise the top 20% of there range and they fold 80% of the time then .8x.8=64% , 64% of the time the small and big blind will fold, so if we knew this then how wide would you open from the button?
just something to get u thinking shoz
, what about blockers AXs KXs etc, hmmm no reads , pretty much in the same boat as Q6s no reads imho
