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End game in satellite for a live event
« on: March 01, 2011, 22:11:44 PM »
We"re 5 handed in a satellite for a live event. (Buyin $40)

Payout is 1st & 2nd = $250 seat, 3rd = $100, 4th = $60, 5th = $40

X - 7,000
Y - 7,000
Z - 7,000
SB - 16,500
BB - 15,800

Blinds are 200/400/50

Play folds round to you in SB and you are holding ac kd

You raise it to 1050

BB goes allin for 15,800

Limited reads on BB.  Has been in top two of chips since final table began, played minimal hands to showdown. (If that means anything)


What do you do ?

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Re: End game in satellite for a live event
« Reply #1 on: March 01, 2011, 22:15:55 PM »
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Re: End game in satellite for a live event
« Reply #2 on: March 01, 2011, 22:17:15 PM »
I"d like to think i"m snapping here.

But easier posting it than actually doing it.  Thinking being, your playing for the live seat, this would as good as give it to you.  AK heads up, never a bad thing either.   range could be pretty wide in this position...

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Re: End game in satellite for a live event
« Reply #3 on: March 01, 2011, 22:18:23 PM »
I would fold, it"s ok to raise with this hand but not calling the only player on table who could wipe you out with 4 7 off more or less.

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Re: End game in satellite for a live event
« Reply #4 on: March 01, 2011, 22:28:37 PM »
Easy fold. If we"re in the BB and the SB raises, AK would be a great hand to shove with... but never ever calling off for my stack in this spot with AK.


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Re: End game in satellite for a live event
« Reply #5 on: March 01, 2011, 22:35:56 PM »
it is a tough spot, you still have to work for the seat. I think I would be inclined to call here, probably be racing.

The thought here is what is he getting it in with, he is only shipping the top of his range in reality. Im inclined to put him on QQ, JJ and maybe 1010 as he ships straight.

As I said tough spot, I would see how I felt at the time.
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Re: End game in satellite for a live event
« Reply #6 on: March 01, 2011, 22:37:41 PM »
maybe I"ve alot to learn then (well no maybe about it really)

would we be folding just about everything then, other than absolute premium?

Because assuming X, Y or Z double one another up, then its 3 very similar stacks, and only 1 short for the 2 seats..if current BB takes 1 out, then your playing for just one seat effectively

If we win the hand the seat is as good as ours -No?

BB surely pushing you around, and protecting his 400, while taking a stab at the 850 pot, and no room for re-raising.

If we fold...at some point we"ll be calling an all in of around 6-7k from X,Y or Z to keep above water anyway?
« Last Edit: March 01, 2011, 22:39:49 PM by Waz1892 »
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Re: End game in satellite for a live event
« Reply #7 on: March 01, 2011, 22:52:14 PM »
You will probably not believe this  ::)

I would fold

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Re: End game in satellite for a live event
« Reply #8 on: March 01, 2011, 22:58:41 PM »
Interesting spot here Leigh.

Just wish i hadn"t been watching........ ;)
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Re: End game in satellite for a live event
« Reply #9 on: March 01, 2011, 23:05:39 PM »

Interesting spot here Leigh.

Just wish i hadn"t been watching........ ;)


I knew it wouldn"t be long before someone came along who was there.   ;D


Anyone else offering up justification for calling with the AK ?

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Re: End game in satellite for a live event
« Reply #10 on: March 01, 2011, 23:13:36 PM »

Anyone else offering up justification for calling with the AK ?


nope  8)

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Re: End game in satellite for a live event
« Reply #11 on: March 01, 2011, 23:17:46 PM »


Anyone else offering up justification for calling with the AK ?


nope  8)


Sorry - limited reads, 40 bigs, sat, race, out if binked (basically), better spots, you"re calling, you could be ahead of another high Ace, maybe not, but what the feck lets party.

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Re: End game in satellite for a live event
« Reply #12 on: March 01, 2011, 23:25:39 PM »

it is a tough spot, you still have to work for the seat. I think I would be inclined to call here, probably be racing.

The thought here is what is he getting it in with, he is only shipping the top of his range in reality. Im inclined to put him on QQ, JJ and maybe 1010 as he ships straight.

As I said tough spot, I would see how I felt at the time.


but you have to hit to win the hand - without other reads on the guy, I would only ever call with QQ+ in this spot. Happy to shove a very wide range, but hate calling when probably need to hit to win the hand.

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Re: End game in satellite for a live event
« Reply #13 on: March 01, 2011, 23:29:08 PM »

I would only ever call with QQ+ in this spot. Happy to shove a very wide range, but hate calling when probably need to hit to win the hand.


Noted, thanks Steve.
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Re: End game in satellite for a live event
« Reply #14 on: March 01, 2011, 23:35:27 PM »


it is a tough spot, you still have to work for the seat. I think I would be inclined to call here, probably be racing.

The thought here is what is he getting it in with, he is only shipping the top of his range in reality. Im inclined to put him on QQ, JJ and maybe 1010 as he ships straight.

As I said tough spot, I would see how I felt at the time.


but you have to hit to win the hand - without other reads on the guy, I would only ever call with QQ+ in this spot. Happy to shove a very wide range, but hate calling when probably need to hit to win the hand.


hmm, not sure I agree entirely, you are not folding to a seat, there is still a lot to do and at some point you will prob need to take a race. At this point I may fold, but again it is about how I felt. At this stage Leigh is already freerolling, at what point do you take the risk to go for the win? A shove doesn"t feel strong here, why shove for 40+ BB with AA or KK? but then again why not?

I dont think there is a wrong way to play this.
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