End game in satellite for a live event

[TheSnapper]

ONE question.... why not just call and see the FLOP with this  ah

Why see a flop when we can pick up the ~1500 chips in the middle?

Risk:Reward

[samuel_9]

ONE question.... why not just call and see the FLOP with this  ah

Why see a flop when we can pick up the ~1500 chips in the middle?

Risk:Reward

imgoing to try and spell this.. eggsackley....risk reward ..wee can loose a 1k  and still have 14k  or you could win 15k and nock a player out..or you could not play cards and listen to music all day music like this. enjoy http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UMz8XRGxZdY

[noble1]

Interesting spot here Leigh.

Just wish i hadn"t been watching........

I knew it wouldn"t be long before someone came along who was there.  


Anyone else offering up justification for calling with the AK ?

call and most likely at worst 45 times u double up and pretty much lock up $250 , 55 times u lose and end up with $40.........

edit - i"d better add that even though u would have a monster stack sometimes odd things happen in poker etc etc... So lets say u then go on to win 90% of the time, that would end up being approx 40 times u end up with $250....

Question - if u fold will u have a better than 40% chance of winning one of the 2 seats?

[samuel_9]

Interesting spot here Leigh.

Just wish i hadn"t been watching........

I knew it wouldn"t be long before someone came along who was there.  


Anyone else offering up justification for calling with the AK ?

call and most likely at worst 45 times u double up and pretty much lock up $250 , 55 times u lose and end up with $40.........

edit - i"d better add that even though u would have a monster stack sometimes odd things happen in poker etc etc... So lets say u then go on to win 90% of the time, that would end up being approx 40 times u end up with $250....

Question - if u fold will u have a better than 40% chance of winning one of the 2 seats?

NOBLE DARLING .NOW  thats a silly question cause if you fold you cant win

[Swinebag]

I"m pretty sure I peel with the A8s v Leigh, outplay him post flop and don"t go broke when the A lands.

Anyone else, I peel, fail to outplay them postflop and go broke when the A lands

But seriously, I think shoving is the best play here. SB can only really call with AA and KK and may even fold QQ (I wouldn"t though)

[noble1]

We"re 5 handed in a satellite for a live event. (Buyin $40)

Payout is 1st & 2nd = $250 seat, 3rd = $100, 4th = $60, 5th = $40

X - 7,000
Y - 7,000
Z - 7,000
SB - 16,500
BB - 15,800

Blinds are 200/400/50

Play folds round to the SB who raises it to 1050

You are in the BB with  ah

Limited reads on SB.  Has knocked out a couple of the players on the final table to build their stack.



What plays do you have here ?

I"m pretty sure I peel with the A8s v Leigh, outplay him post flop and don"t go broke when the A lands.

Anyone else, I peel, fail to outplay them postflop and go broke when the A lands

But seriously, I think shoving is the best play here. SB can only really call with AA and KK and may even fold QQ (I wouldn"t though)

hmmm it seems odd to me shoving around 40bb"s in this spot with limited reads, especially since they have been on your right throughout the final table, add to that u"ve seen 2 showdowns...  
it all ends up as -

[deanp27]

I"m pretty sure I peel with the A8s v Leigh, outplay him post flop and don"t go broke when the A lands.

Anyone else, I peel, fail to outplay them postflop and go broke when the A lands

But seriously, I think shoving is the best play here. SB can only really call with AA and KK and may even fold QQ (I wouldn"t though)

I"d probably minraise vs you with the intention of snapping off a shove. Seriously Tbh folding might be better than r/f against someone who is going to do this in the bb

[Tiger-flash]

We"re 5 handed in a satellite for a live event. (Buyin $40)

Payout is 1st & 2nd = $250 seat, 3rd = $100, 4th = $60, 5th = $40

X - 7,000
Y - 7,000
Z - 7,000
SB - 16,500
BB - 15,800

Blinds are 200/400/50

Play folds round to you in SB and you are holding ac kd

You raise it to 1050

BB goes allin for 15,800

Limited reads on BB.  Has been in top two of chips since final table began, played minimal hands to showdown. (If that means anything)


What do you do ?

obvious fold, but since you knocked me out of a satelliite calling with 8 6 when i had a big ace im surprised you didnt call, no hard feelings  

[Chipaccrual]

We"re 5 handed in a satellite for a live event. (Buyin $40)

Payout is 1st & 2nd = $250 seat, 3rd = $100, 4th = $60, 5th = $40

X - 7,000
Y - 7,000
Z - 7,000
SB - 16,500
BB - 15,800

Blinds are 200/400/50

Play folds round to you in SB and you are holding ac kd

You raise it to 1050

BB goes allin for 15,800

Limited reads on BB.  Has been in top two of chips since final table began, played minimal hands to showdown. (If that means anything)


What do you do ?

obvious fold, but since you knocked me out of a satelliite calling with 8 6 when i had a big ace im surprised you didnt call, no hard feelings  

Errrr, okay.  You"ll have to jog my memory on that one.  There"s no way I am calling with 8 6 unless the stack sizes can justify it.  Clearly there are hard feelings, so sorry about that.  

[deanp27]

[ian.ski309]

Sorry if I offended you by quoting your post I didn"t mean any offence by it.

Accepted, I"ll let you off. Still folding though  

[deanp27]

I may fold this also but was trying to give the reasons that a call might not be as crazy as the majority suggest

[Chipaccrual]

Many thanks for all of the comments on this.

I chose not to say whether it was me in the SB or the BB, to allow for some balanced comments, and it"s not as straight forward as I first thought, and when next in the situation I"ll certainly have a better thought process with which to make the decision.

So, anyway, I was the one shoving from the BB, with the thought that the SB just wouldn"t be able to find a call with much more than AA and KK.  Partly to defend my blind and also give more of an aggro table image.  I was very surprised to see him call with the AK.  If roles were reversed, I just don"t see how I would make that call, but as others have explained, it"s not the worst call in the world.

Interesting stuff.  I managed to totally butcher the situation basically.  GG me.  

[Tiger-flash]

We"re 5 handed in a satellite for a live event. (Buyin $40)

Payout is 1st & 2nd = $250 seat, 3rd = $100, 4th = $60, 5th = $40

X - 7,000
Y - 7,000
Z - 7,000
SB - 16,500
BB - 15,800

Blinds are 200/400/50

Play folds round to you in SB and you are holding ac kd

You raise it to 1050

BB goes allin for 15,800

Limited reads on BB.  Has been in top two of chips since final table began, played minimal hands to showdown. (If that means anything)


What do you do ?

obvious fold, but since you knocked me out of a satelliite calling with 8 6 when i had a big ace im surprised you didnt call, no hard feelings  

Errrr, okay.  You"ll have to jog my memory on that one.  There"s no way I am calling with 8 6 unless the stack sizes can justify it.  Clearly there are hard feelings, so sorry about that.  

no probs mate, i was only kidding, it was the free satellite at xmas for the dtd super 50 when i went all in with ace jack suited and you spiked an 8, but i only had about 5 big blinds so i would of called too, no more will be said about it lol

[samuel_9]

spikes an 8 he must be a fish