just to put this into some context for those not at the table, i was sat at a table with team mates, dazza and patrick either side of me.
the blinds were 400/800, think patrick had about 7k, dazza had 9, and i had about 18. two rotations running it had folded round to dazza on the button who went all in. first time we both folded, second time patrick who was in big blind seemed hacked off as he typed " ffs dazza" suggesting he either had a playable hand but wanted to avoid a showdown, or he was sick of having a team mate with more chips taking his blinds. patrick folded, dazza showed aq suited and claimed via chat that he had kk the time before.
the very next rotation it folded to us again and i typed my turn for aq suited fellas. it was by way of an apology to patrick because i was going to shove. as it turns out patrick didnt even see what i typed and was still oblivious 15 minutes later as to what had happened.
i think some of the people on here need to realise there are people playing this, like me, who have never played poker in a casino in their lives, and who genuinely make mistakes.the fact other people were making exactly the same mistake at other tables supports this.
if mfcrocker ( who reminds me of the sort of person that stops anyone sensible taking up golf cometitively ) only wants participants hugely experienced and fully up to speed with the nuances of the apat rulebook then perhaps entry should be restricted to professionals like himself. i play because i"m normally trading u.s. sports on a sunday night, so i"m online anyway, and the crack is usually good. i dont claim to be any good at it or to have played at a million and one major live tournaments.
as for snappers comments... human beings are pre-programmed to be inherently selfish. it is part of our psychological make-up. some more than others, but generally speaking we like to get our own way in relationships with other human beings. sometimes this is done crudely,by the use of threats or violence perhaps, sometimes subtley by use of suggestion or mind -games. fwiw i know some hugely intelligent human beings who are not familiar with the apat rulebook. my mother, who is a doctor, doesn"t even know how to play poker at all. should we have her shot ?