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Donkey, Chip Dumping or Really Good Bubble Play?
« on: June 15, 2011, 22:09:25 PM »
Just listened to a Podcast where the following situation was reported;

Borgata tournament, Big Buy-in, 10K I think and the situation in question is on the money bubble and features a lot of locals in their biggest tourney.

A very short-stacked player is All-In down to 3 x BB and proceeds to get 6 Callers on the premise that "one of us will knock him out"

Blair Hinkle then raises in LP and everybody folds including one player who claimed to have JJ. Cards are on their backs and Hinkle turned over.... 4,3 off

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Re: Donkey, Chip Dumping or Really Good Bubble Play?
« Reply #1 on: June 15, 2011, 22:13:38 PM »
Love it. but thats just me

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Re: Donkey, Chip Dumping or Really Good Bubble Play?
« Reply #2 on: June 15, 2011, 23:30:03 PM »
If it"s a big stack who raised, and someone who is nailed on to make the money, it"s an excellent play - there is loads of dead money in the pot with all those calls... and 43o against one all-in player is a reasonable 40/60 spot with dead money in the pot.

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Re: Donkey, Chip Dumping or Really Good Bubble Play?
« Reply #3 on: June 16, 2011, 03:46:04 AM »
Love it too, it"s exactly the right play. If he gets them all to fold their light calling hands (which presumably they have cos they wouldn"t want to go the flop multi-handed with a monster), he has to beat one hand to win 22.5BB (incl SB & BB) at a possible cost of 3BB. Also, losing the hand is not undesirable cos keeping the bubble alive is likely to encourage others to continue folding, especially if they are playing above their usual stakes.
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Re: Donkey, Chip Dumping or Really Good Bubble Play?
« Reply #4 on: June 16, 2011, 22:36:51 PM »
It"s a play you see all the time from the regular SNG players on the bubble.
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Re: Donkey, Chip Dumping or Really Good Bubble Play?
« Reply #5 on: June 16, 2011, 22:47:22 PM »
super standard from hinkle - If you are big stack you dont want the bubble to burst, so if it has to, you exclusively want to be the one doing it and 34o is getting a great price now
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Re: Donkey, Chip Dumping or Really Good Bubble Play?
« Reply #6 on: June 17, 2011, 09:00:38 AM »
Yep, according the further analysis on the podcast the respondents here have it nailed (John M almost verbatim  ;))

Hinkle knew from the table dynamic that they would all fold, thus giving him great odds with ATC and, as John says, he doesn"t want the bubble period to end as there"s a lot of dead money around - I just found the situation interesting!

Apparently the locals were up in arms screaming collusion etc
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Re: Donkey, Chip Dumping or Really Good Bubble Play?
« Reply #7 on: June 21, 2011, 17:41:01 PM »
FFS

Just caught up with a later episode where they admitted that they mis-reported the hand (I thought a 7-way limp-fest was unlikely even amongst the nittiest...)

Apparently UTG was forced All-in with 10k at 4k/8k and UTG+1 flat called with JJ (??) Hinkle then paid his move with 3,4os.

Short Stack was in great shape with A,4 and trebled up and then some. 2 "locals" genuinely wanted Hinkle DQ"d :o

I"d have DQ"d the guy with JJ personally
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Re: Donkey, Chip Dumping or Really Good Bubble Play?
« Reply #8 on: June 21, 2011, 21:57:20 PM »

super standard from hinkle - If you are big stack you dont want the bubble to burst, so if it has to, you exclusively want to be the one doing it and 34o is getting a great price now


spot on you dont allways want the bubble to burst in comps when your a big stack and pushing people around who want to make the money

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Re: Donkey, Chip Dumping or Really Good Bubble Play?
« Reply #9 on: June 21, 2011, 21:58:23 PM »

Love it. but thats just me

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Re: Donkey, Chip Dumping or Really Good Bubble Play?
« Reply #10 on: June 21, 2011, 21:59:23 PM »


Love it. but thats just me

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Re: Donkey, Chip Dumping or Really Good Bubble Play?
« Reply #11 on: June 22, 2011, 20:04:46 PM »



Love it. but thats just me

Note to self - Aquarium next Friday


what is your note, to bubble


Bog Off ya fish  ;D


you know your going to bubble on friday  :D