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NewLimproved

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What would you do?
« on: August 15, 2011, 23:17:06 PM »
£10+ £10 addon for 8k+8k
Playing live at the Gala Glasgow.

Used addon Just below average stack with 22k
1st hand after being Moved to a new table of 10 players.
Two tables remaining.
Blinds 300/600
utg folds
utg +1 calls 600 with 15k stack
utg +2 calls 600 with 30k stack
utg +3 folds
Raise to 2000 with ks qs
Hj folds
Co folds
But folds
SB folds
BB folds
utg+1 calls 1400
utg+2 calls 1400
Pot 6900

Flop
kh jc 5h

utg +1 checks
utg +2 bets 2500
You to act??
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Re: What would you do?
« Reply #1 on: August 15, 2011, 23:28:37 PM »
Quote from: NewLimproved on August 15, 2011, 23:17:06 PM

£10+ £10 addon for 8k+8k
Playing live at the Gala Glasgow.

Used addon Just below average stack with 22k
1st hand after being Moved to a new table of 10 players.
Two tables remaining.
Blinds 300/600
utg folds
utg +1 calls 600 with 15k stack
utg +2 calls 600 with 30k stack
utg +3 folds
Raise to 2000 with ks qs
Hj folds
Co folds
But folds
SB folds
BB folds
utg+1 calls 1400
utg+2 calls 1400
Pot 6900

Flop
kh jc 5h

utg +1 checks
utg +2 bets 2500
You to act??


Looks like you"re ahead from the preflop play, but wary of KJ and flush draw. It"s cheap enough to call but I"d probably raise rather than give a free turn card
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Re: What would you do?
« Reply #2 on: August 15, 2011, 23:36:00 PM »
It depends on the players and you image but might just call flop rather than raise
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Re: What would you do?
« Reply #3 on: August 16, 2011, 00:09:19 AM »
Quote from: deanp27 on August 15, 2011, 23:36:00 PM

It depends on the players and you image but might just call flop rather than raise
Imagine your a bettor and not a limper then
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Re: What would you do?
« Reply #4 on: August 16, 2011, 00:16:55 AM »
I get beaten up a lot  ;D

But I am shoving that - but again that is just me  8)

reasoning - none except just below average and close to 10k in the pot

what are you afraid of is my question ?

edit: oh and I get laughed at a lot
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Re: What would you do?
« Reply #5 on: August 16, 2011, 00:26:42 AM »
His bet suggests that he would like to get to the Turn and has set his own price to get there rather than you setting a higher one, so Jx or draws to a Flush or Straight are likely. Or are they? He should be betting more on that Flop if he has a strong made hand but some people are not aware of this, so you might set him in and find yourself behind. Assuming you are ahead, to reraise now and set him a correct price is going to become very expensive - what should be a good situation is now in dire danger of getting out of control with us not knowing whether we are in good shape or not - partly due to a terrible size raise preflop.
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Re: What would you do?
« Reply #6 on: August 16, 2011, 00:38:21 AM »
Hes either miles ahead and flopped trip 5s/maybe Jacks or fishing for the flush. You would reraise AA/AK/QQ/JJ surely?

I would raise to 7k and probably fold to a shove....or maybe not. Depends if I am drinking tea or cider :)

Did that help? LOL
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Re: What would you do?
« Reply #7 on: August 16, 2011, 00:40:57 AM »
Trav always says it so much better...hes Irish you know!
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Re: What would you do?
« Reply #8 on: August 16, 2011, 00:55:29 AM »
With no info on bettor I suspected he was putting out an obvious blocker bet to try to control the pot
I re-raised to 8k
utg+1 folds
utg +2  nervously puts in the extra 5.5k
Turn   :2d:
pot 22900

He checks
I shove for 11000
He calls and states he has outs but knows he is behind
and shows  jh 8h
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Re: What would you do?
« Reply #9 on: August 16, 2011, 00:58:57 AM »
I would also raise here to make him pay to see the turn. To me it looks like he is unsure of where he is.
If he then shoves, you are probably only ahead of a flush draw or a bluff and can then fold.....or FLAB as we call it at the BCPC :)
He is folding 10-10 and below to a re-raise and I doubt he would have just called pre-flop with A-K.
K-J is a possibility, but I think he would bet more if he held that.
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Re: What would you do?
« Reply #10 on: August 16, 2011, 00:59:51 AM »
Did I play this right?
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Re: What would you do?
« Reply #11 on: August 16, 2011, 01:00:06 AM »
First hand at a new table you should err on the side of caution giving yourself time to get some idea of the players and their stack sizes. Facing unknown utg and utg+1 limpers I prefer to flat here and may even fold :o

As played.....

The pfr is a little on the small side and I prefer 3k - 3.6k as a betsize, 2k offers ~3/1 to the limpers and we"re relatively deep 25-35 bb"s.

Its a decent flop but lots of limp call type hands have decent equity against us, a reraise would put us in a really tough spot and potentially folding the best hand (marginally best usually though qh th &  ah th are a small favourite versus our hand). I prefer to flat call and continue cautiously, hoping for a non heart non broadway turn. Raising would fold out only the hands you want to keep in, weaker K"s, pair weak draw combo"s etc.

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Re: What would you do?
« Reply #12 on: August 16, 2011, 01:01:02 AM »
He called ???.....what a horrible play !
If he is gonna chase his flush for that amount then he wants to be 4-betting all-in because that is where he ended up anyway !!
I hope he didnt suck-out on you
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Re: What would you do?
« Reply #13 on: August 16, 2011, 01:02:05 AM »
I think you did.
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Re: What would you do?
« Reply #14 on: August 16, 2011, 01:06:04 AM »
Quote from: BOINGBLITZ on August 16, 2011, 01:02:05 AM

I think you did.

I thought i did on my way home
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