Season 6 Discussion

[PHIL_TC]

An annual CoC; where scheduled at the start of a season, perhaps has relevance. One based on the last five years doesn"t. If you want to find the most successful player during that time, then I would look at APAT cashes on the Hendon Mob database.

http://pokerdb.thehendonmob.com/ranking/386

Joint 7th wohoo!

p.s. not sure if this is open to debate but is there any possible movement from a Saturday night to a Sunday for the online National events? I havent been able to play one this season with it being on a Saturday but I"m sure theres equally the same argument for people who prefer it on a Saturday over a Sunday. Just chucking it into the "consideration hat" x

[mporter123]

Leader Board- I think more emphasis is needed on the overall leader board (online and live). It would be good to see it on the front page showing who is top, by how many points, etc etc. The UKIPT do this very well with the leader board pride of place on their front page.

I agree - and please keep it up to date. We all know that there is a lot of work involved in organising and running the tournaments, a substantial amount of which is never seen, so I can never understand why the simplest five-minute job of updating the leaderboard to finish off the event usually gets left undone for weeks. Why not just do it on the day? And saying you don"t know who has finished where in online games is incredible - can"t someone be delegated to watch the game and record the result?

The updating bit is the easy bit, its just then what you do with the rankings to actually make them mean something. It would be great to have some kind of added value for player of the season ie. x number of buyins for next season - sponsorship allowing. Saying that though, I am not sure the added value is particularly important. APAT has a strong community and a lot of regular players. A leader board that was made more prominant would be cool just for brag purposes.

[AMRN]

An annual CoC; where scheduled at the start of a season, perhaps has relevance. One based on the last five years doesn"t. If you want to find the most successful player during that time, then I would look at APAT cashes on the Hendon Mob database.

http://pokerdb.thehendonmob.com/ranking/386

Joint 7th wohoo!

p.s. not sure if this is open to debate but is there any possible movement from a Saturday night to a Sunday for the online National events? I havent been able to play one this season with it being on a Saturday but I"m sure theres equally the same argument for people who prefer it on a Saturday over a Sunday. Just chucking it into the "consideration hat" x

nooo please don"t do that.... I wouldn"t be able to play Sundays, for the same reason that I don"t play the Sunday majors. Monday morning start is way too early for a late Sunday night

[PHIL_TC]

nooo please don"t do that.... I wouldn"t be able to play Sundays, for the same reason that I don"t play the Sunday majors. Monday morning start is way too early for a late Sunday night

But a late night would involve running deep Steve??? confused     x

[scouse3465]

that"s a bit harsh

For the live events the ranking positions are sent to the compiler the day after the event are are almost always updated in the rankings on the same week

There was a dislocation with the DTD WCOAP Online as it coincided to the day with Leigh's departure and the need to record the results fell through the cracks. Once we then obtained the results from DTD we had to work out who was represented by which DTD alias, a process that is ongoing.

Not exactly representative of systematic laxness in updating the rankings....

agree with rich here there has been a few probs with rankings and can understand national ranking with DTD/888 probs with names etc.

1 thing which is prob a bit bad without sounding harsh is the national poker league  div 1 never had individual standings up . Although many thanks to gerry for doing an individual speadsheet .
And i would volunteer to have a go of keeping it upto date either this year or next. (I know its hard to keep on top of it but i have a lot of time on my hands now) !

[scouse3465]

An annual CoC; where scheduled at the start of a season, perhaps has relevance. One based on the last five years doesn"t. If you want to find the most successful player during that time, then I would look at APAT cashes on the Hendon Mob database.

http://pokerdb.thehendonmob.com/ranking/386

Joint 7th wohoo!

Nice one phil but but unsure why all APAT events have not been included on database in the rankings , they on there as APAT events. The pro events are not included on rankings , or the home nations team event. (world team event has been ). The other team events aint even on databse whatsoever ? Well 2 i cashed in anyway ?

[AMRN]

nooo please don"t do that.... I wouldn"t be able to play Sundays, for the same reason that I don"t play the Sunday majors. Monday morning start is way too early for a late Sunday night

But a late night would involve running deep Steve??? confused     x

Just going on most recent form - runner up in the last one     (brag opportunity claimed!)

[PHIL_TC]

Nice one phil but but unsure why all APAT events have not been included on database in the rankings , they on there as APAT events. The pro events are not included on rankings , or the home nations team event. (world team event has been ). The other team events aint even on databse whatsoever ? Well 2 i cashed in anyway ?

As far as I understood it, if theres live medals up for grabs its an "official" ranking APAT event, which might rule out the pro events? but the team events I"m sure should be? Im sure Des / Tighty can confirm. Maybe the Hendon Mob people just need a nudge.

Just going on most recent form - runner up in the last one     (brag opportunity claimed!)

Knew that was coming  

[BOINGBLITZ]

So a Champion Of Champions event is relevant in the PCA for all there winners, and at the GUKPT, but not good enough for APAT ?

OK then....I just thought it was a great idea, but once it has been put down at the highest levels, I am pretty sure it wont be included anyway. 

[TightEnd]

So a Champion Of Champions event is relevant in the PCA for all there winners, and at the GUKPT, but not good enough for APAT ?

OK then....I just thought it was a great idea, but once it has been put down at the highest levels, I am pretty sure it wont be included anyway. 

It"s a question of resource, priorities and strategy

Resource: Because each live event costs money to put on

Priorities: Because we have masses of new ideas

Strategy: Because it is neither inclusive or helps develop the growth of the tour/APAT

Give us a blank chequebook and a clear diary and I"ll arrange everything

Until then, its a case of choosing the best amongst a number of competitng options

[Hammerite]

Nice one phil but but unsure why all APAT events have not been included on database in the rankings , they on there as APAT events. The pro events are not included on rankings , or the home nations team event. (world team event has been ). The other team events aint even on databse whatsoever ? Well 2 i cashed in anyway ?

As far as I understood it, if theres live medals up for grabs its an "official" ranking APAT event, which might rule out the pro events? but the team events I"m sure should be? Im sure Des / Tighty can confirm. Maybe the Hendon Mob people just need a nudge.

Don"t think this is the case Phil as there were medals in the pro events but they are not counted as Apat Cashes in the data base. Ps Just read about your accident, get well soon mate.

[PHIL_TC]

Don"t think this is the case Phil as there were medals in the pro events but they are not counted as Apat Cashes in the data base. Ps Just read about your accident, get well soon mate.

Well if there were medals for the pro events then I officially have no clue what constitutes an official flagged APAT event within the Hendon Mob then which is then included in the "cashes" database. One for Tighty and Des to clarify.

And cheers Don.. stupid game football, just want to be 100% for Vegas so I can fly.. the team event, beer mixed with pain killers might produce some random play.. be fun though  

[TightEnd]

Simple, all event results are provided to THM

All are included in the database, all should be in the cashes list

If they aren"t, write to them and get whichever you want included.

[jbworldwide]

Don"t think this is the case Phil as there were medals in the pro events but they are not counted as Apat Cashes in the data base. Ps Just read about your accident, get well soon mate.

Well if there were medals for the pro events then I officially have no clue what constitutes an official flagged APAT event within the Hendon Mob then which is then included in the "cashes" database. One for Tighty and Des to clarify.

And cheers Don.. stupid game football, just want to be 100% for Vegas so I can fly.. the team event, beer mixed with pain killers might produce some random play.. be fun though  

hopefully it might propel you to win the thing!

[dwh103]

Should just be "open" events in the rankings imo - but you can filter that down on THM anyway if they list it right.