Season 6 Discussion

[Paulie_D]

(subject only to the vicissitudes of fate)

I love that word  

Then you"re gonna love this...http://www.apat.com/forum/index.php?topic=7090.msg168382#msg168382

[Delboy]

I"m an old stick in the mud but I don"t see that Options 2 & 3 offer the stability or guaranteed budget that a full season of events would (to my mind) require. I much prefer KNOWING that an event will be taking place at a certain venue and on certain date (subject only to the vicissitudes of fate) and planning my year well in advance.

With regards to season six I have to agree with Paulie. Long term, however Option 3 maybe the most profitable way to go, providing you can find a good network to launch a skin through, and possibly an aggressive marketing campaign around local card-rooms, pub poker leagues etc.

[bhoywonder70]

It"s all exciting ...options 1 n 3 for me...n a full run at it this yr hopefully....

[Donka]

Option 1 for me.

[Chipaccrual]

ss far as I see. Option 1 is a check, option 2 is a shove and with option 3 you"ve also thrown your car keys in and flopped your nuts out onto the table.

I think that pretty much sums it up.  Nicely put Dave.

[ChipHungry]

Option 1 please As

[ian.ski309]

Option 1 would be my personal preference by a mile. It would provide a greater stability for the forthcoming season and involve the least amount of ongoing stress for Des, Tighty and team.

[cundallini]

Option 1 with pokerstars would be reallllllllllllllllll good.

Would like to see it stay in the UK and have more mixed games at each event.

[stratosphere]

Option 1 with pokerstars would be reallllllllllllllllll good.

Would like to see it stay in the UK and have more mixed games at each event.

+1 (esp. the Pokerstars bit).

I think stability is the key.

[Mikeyboy9361]

Option 3 would be very brave. It is quite exciting but you would rely on the patronage of your high rakers who may be on good deals elsewhere.

I don"t like Option 2. Personally, I"m trying to cut down on the number of sites I use, especially with all these hacking stories and the very real risk of some sites going t*ts up in the recession. Chopping and changing is bitty, messy and a few people just might not bother with it.

Option 1 is probably the most boring, but the one I like most so I suppose I must be boring. I would like a safe site to play APAT poker on and probably most of my (small stakes) poker would be played there. One site, everything on it - Simples!

I agree.

I would do my best to play whatever the outcome is though.

[Hammerite]

Then again option 1 has worked over the past 5 seasons.... if you can get the right deal and it means stability for the remainder of the season without having any events in doubt then I"m always a fan. Nothing worse than planning time off work and around holidays for an event and to have it cancelled.

This....+1

This  + 2   And I for one would be in favour of a membership fee like season one had, to cover any shortfall in sponsorship in these times of austerity.

[Desi]

Option one seems to be the safest option assuming you get the deal you need of course.
One of the newer sites might be the best ones to approach, but Im sure you have done plenty in the way of getting a deal. It also seems to have worked well over the past few years.

Option two, as you say runs the risk of a sponsor pulling out at the last minute and event(s) being cancelled. Its also going to be very hard to get people to sign up to multiple sites.

Option three, sounds good and would be ideal if it worked, but if it doesnt it could do a lot of damage to APAT. Theres a lot of online sites that dont make it, its a tough market to crack and would take a lot to make it work.

Im sure this doesnt make your decison any easier Des lol

[1TRW1]

If the Nationals are played in the right places I don"t think they need to be touched (some larger capacities would be nice though). The Online League has been discussed to death and everyone has their own ideas there. It would be nice to see some weight thrown behind a flagship event (be it the Worlds or something else) and for APAT + sponsor to jump up and down and shout "Hey, look at us". Grosvenor got well over 1,000 for the Goliath, DTD plenty for their £50 super tournament. Not suggesting APAT goes and offers £100k guarantees (or maybe...) but there is clearly appetite for a well marketed lower stakes event.

Agree with this.

As far as I see. Option 1 is a check, option 2 is a shove and with option 3 you"ve also thrown your car keys in and flopped your nuts out onto the table.

And this has had me giggling at my desk for 5 mins now.  

[Swinebag]

option 1 is getting a bit tired IMO - Des negotiates great deal, site looks at a how much value they have got from the deal at the end of the year, site not impressed, site not interested in sponsoring any more, des negotiates deal for for next season...rinse and repeat....untill we run out of sites

This option is never helped by members whinging about the site, whether it be the software or a CS issue. I know most greivances are genuine, but I feel a bit of diplomacy and vision of the bigger picture is in order here.


Option 2 looks ok but would be a lot of work for Des and would feel like the season is permanantly in limbo. (and the winge posts about all the different online sites would put me on permanant tilt)


I love option 3 - Des has the skillz to get this off the ground and to make it a success.....Can I have rakeback please???

[SirPercival]

Is there a potential hybrid option?

Option 3 affiliated to Option 1 for the core events with option 2 for some "one offs"?