Season 6 Discussion

[Des]

Nothing wrong with the structure or 10K starting stack. Seems to work very well to find a winner during a weekend which is what APAT is all about (ie no need to play on a work day).
However, if numbers of entrants continue to drop (as happened last year), then maybe a move to 15K might not lead to early finishes (Cork stands out an as example).

I believe Cork was an exception due to various factors Darren.

[samuel_9]

me 2p worth /y change something if its not broke.i mean if you broke a val dooniken record would u fix it. /naaaa/but 2 be onest it dont make any difference wat the starting stack is its the strukture y make it any harder for the people that r doing there best for us//just sayn//////////hoo loves  ya baby

[samuel_9]

o and whats happing on wensday night des

[Joker161]

Players generally put far too much importance on starting stack

It is the structure that is key

3,000 chips is fine if the structure is graduated enough to allow play at all times

I am not saying a move to 15,000 won"t happen, merely pointing out that structure is key and I am not aware that for any concerted period of any APAT national our structure and 10,000 chips leads to a crapshoot.

When I played in the $1,000 event at the WSOP a couple of years ago, we got only 3,000 in chips, but the blinds went 25/25, 25/50, and so on, rising every hour. LOTS of play.

It"s all about the structure.

10k is fine for the APAT events. I turned up over an hour late at Brighton and was gutted to find I had lost, err, 300 chips out of my 10k. There"s plenty of play with the 10k and the current structure.

[AJDUK]

No dinner break and long days at DTD because of that 15K starting stack.

The standard structure is spot on for the time we have, including when we have 400+ runners. I don"t recall crapshoot complaints at any APAT event other than the heads-up.

[AceOnTheRiver]

When I played in the $1,000 event at the WSOP a couple of years ago, we got only 3,000 in chips, but the blinds went 25/25, 25/50, and so on, rising every hour. LOTS of play.

Blatant, "I played in the WSOP" brag imho  

Can"t believe you didn"t mention the fact that you cashed Joe.

[ian.ski309]

I really couldn"t wait any longer and bowing to extreme pressure from my better half, I"ve been forced to book my holidays between 27 July and 11 Aug... I"m desperately hoping I won"t miss anything important in the APAT calendar such as DTD...  

[Scousebill]

National Online League announcement to follow before close of play on Wednesday.

Now this is the kind of news I like.....

Roll on Wednesday... Roll on Wednesday... Roll on Wednesday...

[Paulie_D]

National Online League announcement to follow before close of play on Wednesday.

Watson, the game"s afoot!

I"m all a-tingle with anticipation!

[dwh103]

Any starting chip changes comes down to simple maths as to whether it"d be beneficial. A 50% increase would lead to the whole tournament taking around 1-2 hours longer (if a tournament with 10k chips finished when the blinds hit x then with 15k chips you"d need to reach blinds of 1.5x to reach the same point in respect of stack depth).

Ideally you need enough time for stack sizes to diverge before the structure puts pressure on those who still have their starting chips. With 10k this is around level 7/8, and with 15k would be around level 9/10.

Whilst the increase would still be beneficial to the overall tournament, and everyone gets a bit more play it probably wouldn"t make a whole lot of difference. I think it would be nice to have >100BBs for an extra level but that"s just down to the kind of player I am!

I wouldn"t mind seeing earlier starts however, regardless of structure if this were possible.

[samuel_9]

National Online League announcement to follow before close of play on Wednesday.

is there a game on wensday night

[Paulie_D]

National Online League announcement to follow before close of play on Wednesday.

is there a game on wensday night

Possibly...and that"s all you"ll get.

[samuel_9]

possibly? well can u tell me where it is  please/ pretty please

[Des]

National Online League announcement to follow before close of play on Wednesday.

is there a game on wensday night

There"s no game Ray. Just confirmation of the format, dates, prizes and sponsor.

That will be followed by a further announcement regarding the Amateur and Online Championships within a week.

[Des]

National Online League announcement to follow before close of play on Wednesday.

Watson, the game"s afoot!

I"m all a-tingle with anticipation!

The game is most definitely afoot and I suspect your timbers may well be shivered.