Season 6 Discussion

[AVFC.WILSON]

Reg Fee: Bang goes the USP! But was always inevitable.
Don"t like the idea of online national on a Thursday night.

I think Registration Fees are always inevitable if they weren"t to be introduced this year, i"m sure they would be happening "sooon" (season 7/8)

As for the online national i agree, keep them on a Saturday night as long as it doesn"t interfere with a Villa home game  

[spudgun007]

Reg fee = no problem

Scheduling = 6 fine if need be, but 8/9 would be preferable

Added Value = always a bonus, whatever it is.

+1

[Waz1892]

Reg fee is fine if needed to be added. If this fee goes to the casino as a whole currently what would APAT do with the "extra" available funds out of the budget?

More/better advertising? Fine, but at the same time we are having/ looking to reduce the number if live events!? Yet seeking even more people.

Not suggestion that isn"t a good idea just stating thoughts.

Live events- understand the scene is getting crowded, but 6 events is very low.

Added value- prefer the step into a higher buyin tournament, I think still the majority play NL when playing live so added stud/Omaha, would feel, to, me "wasted".

Can"t wait though....

We will go with a series of different partners in 2012 which will give us the freedom to amend the schedule as mentioned earlier in the thread.  The reg fee will essentially enable us to add more events, so I would see us increasing from 6 to 8 or 9 as seems to be the popular request at the moment. 

If it adds to potential tournaments available then I  would be even more in favour of the reg fee.

[AMRN]

No probs with reg fees, and love the idea of a festival weekend combining online and live.

there was a remote danger that the APAT concept may have become tired if it continued as was - these options sound like a great refresh Des.

[bigalhx3]

Reg fee - no problem

Schedule - as i dont play all its not a problem for me might even be better for me , And i will still support APAT when i can as its allways a great weekend well run and great bunch of people even if there is far 2 many welsh people there. And after speaking to Tighty about APAT 1 day coming to Yorkshire he did explain to me the difficulty they have had at getting a venue that will stage a APAT event so i will refrain my usual request for APAT to come to YORKSHIRE  

Added Value - as its added Value anything is good but i would like to see it stay the same giving people the chance to play in bigger events above many people bank rolls is only good for the players in the exspeience they will get from playing them and hopfully winning one

[ronaldo07]

Reg fee - no problem

Schedule - as i dont play all its not a problem for me might even be better for me , And i will still support APAT when i can as its allways a great weekend well run and great bunch of people even if there is far 2 many welsh people there. And after speaking to Tighty about APAT 1 day coming to Yorkshire he did explain to me the difficulty they have had at getting a venue that will stage a APAT event so i will refrain my usual request for APAT to come to YORKSHIRE  

Added Value - as its added Value anything is good but i would like to see it stay the same giving people the chance to play in bigger events above many people bank rolls is only good for the players in the exspeience they will get from playing them and hopfully winning one

Will Genting casino not hold an APAT? They are opening a new casino in Sheffield and will run a GPS event there this year!!!!

1 Reg Fee

I"d not complain about paying a 10% fee at all and dont see why one hasnt been charged before.As mentioned before an optional season ticket/membership fee that would waive the reg fees would be good.

2 Scheduling

Every month I"d play as many as poss, every 6 week I"d rock up to em all. Dont think its the time between events myself more the locations for me. Big UK cities like Newcastle Nottingham Manchester Luton no probs.Vegas and Cork or owt like that is a no no for me keep it easy to get to.

3 Winners packages

Although your idea of having every winner at WCOAP is great IMO you knowwhat its like at least one wont make it. Like the passport idea if it was open to any APAT championship. I would prefer an option of event to play. A choice of APAT passport/ Genting/ DTD would do me

[SirPercival]

Reg fees.

This was a USP of APATs and whilst I, and many others, wouldn"t mind paying a reg fee I have a suggestion that creates a new USP and also help solve the issue of needed to generate some funds to cover costs.

Membership fee.

All existing members could be classed as "Bronze" (or similar) and this level of membership could remain free. "Silver" membership could cost £x and for that you get reg free entry into x number of tournaments. "Gold" membership could cost more and give you additional benefits like priority on available seats in events, free gifts like an exculsive card guard (which isn"t realy free but it works for other organisations!). The possible options for this model are endless and I just put it out there as an alternative.

I think the real USP of APAT is the community and the fact member have always been listened to in the development of APAT over the years. Membership fees would increase this community spirit and given that people are willing to pay reg fees then the cost would not be an issue.

To be clear, I"m not suggesting we make APAT an exclusive club, that is not what it"s about. Anyone would still be able to play an APAT event and therefore reg fees would be needed, but being a paying member would give you extra value.

[AMRN]

Hate that idea Stu - it differentiates between people who can afford membership and those who can"t, which then creates layers of exclusivity...

[SirPercival]

Added value

I personally prefer the entry into a bigger event. This is based on the fact I would probably buy-in to the APAT event anyway and I"m sure this applies to many.

Perhaps that bigger event could be an APAT one with a higher buy-in? Perhaps an end of season £250-500 event at the WCOAP.

[stone]

No problem with Reg Fees, seem perfectly logical. Personally the most important motif of an APAT weekend away is the combination of some serious poker with an excellent structure and a chance to just play poker when knocked out. Having a festival approach sounds great but there needs to be the opportunity to just play whether its STT"s, cash, other MTT"s I don"t think it matters. If I look back to earlier seasons whether it was the Vic, Edinburgh or Luton being able to just play offset the investment of the APAT weekend away. To me a quality side event starting at midday on the Sunday would be great, even better when playing different games, again much fun had in the past with Razz, O8 etc!
In terms of added value I am a bit torn, makes sense to keep in-house, but as one who got lucky and binked a biggie it gave me a thrilling poker experience playing the GUKPT GF.

[bigalhx3]

Reg fees.

This was a USP of APATs and whilst I, and many others, wouldn"t mind paying a reg fee I have a suggestion that creates a new USP and also help solve the issue of needed to generate some funds to cover costs.

Membership fee.

All existing members could be classed as "Bronze" (or similar) and this level of membership could remain free. "Silver" membership could cost £x and for that you get reg free entry into x number of tournaments. "Gold" membership could cost more and give you additional benefits like priority on available seats in events, free gifts like an exculsive card guard (which isn"t realy free but it works for other organisations!). The possible options for this model are endless and I just put it out there as an alternative.

I think the real USP of APAT is the community and the fact member have always been listened to in the development of APAT over the years. Membership fees would increase this community spirit and given that people are willing to pay reg fees then the cost would not be an issue.

To be clear, I"m not suggesting we make APAT an exclusive club, that is not what it"s about. Anyone would still be able to play an APAT event and therefore reg fees would be needed, but being a paying member would give you extra value.

typical scott  does not mind paying a reg fee but wants a free card guard  

[SirPercival]

Hate that idea Stu - it differentiates between people who can afford membership and those who can"t, which then creates layers of exclusivity...

reg fee = £7.50

membership fee = £0 (for bronze)

£7.50 for silver with one reg free tourney.

^^^^ as an example

If you cant afford the membership you cant afford the reg fee

[SirPercival]

Hate that idea Stu - it differentiates between people who can afford membership and those who can"t, which then creates layers of exclusivity...

reg fee = £7.50

membership fee = £0 (for bronze)

£7.50 for silver with one reg free tourney.

^^^^ as an example

If you cant afford the membership you cant afford the reg fee

It"s just a different model for the same cost

[Paulie_D]

Membership fee.

All existing members could be classed as "Bronze" (or similar) and this level of membership could remain free. "Silver" membership could cost £x and for that you get reg free entry into x number of tournaments. "Gold" membership could cost more and give you additional benefits like priority on available seats in events, free gifts like an exculsive card guard (which isn"t realy free but it works for other organisations!). The possible options for this model are endless and I just put it out there as an alternative.

I suggested something almost exactly the same when the S6 discussions started and it was not something Des wanted to pursue.

To me the membership "fee" should represent basically prepaid registration fees. If I pay my money up front and am guaranteed a seat then APAT gets the cash up front and the use of it until the event.

[ian.ski309]

A membership fee might work for established APAT regulars who would probably benefit in the short-to-long term. I can"t see it being an attractive proposition for potential members and I suspect that it would discourage participation.