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Re: Season 6 Discussion
« Reply #630 on: February 21, 2012, 03:01:39 AM »
Like the new ideas and the fact that Pokerstars are hosting the league.

Festival thing sounds good.

The only thing I would change/query from last year is why does day 2 on the Sunday not start till 3.00pm?

Everyone"s there in a nearby hotel kicking their heels just hanging around, it could start earlier IMO.

Reg Fees fine by me especially if it allows the APAT to advertise/promote itself.

Agree with (much) earlier poster re the lack of the locals even knowing anything about the APAT when it turns up at their casino. To some we are an annoyance as it means their normal evening comp is either capped or cancelled.

Is it possible to run live satellites for a couple of seats at the venue in the run up to each event as this would promote the APAT brand and build some relations with the locals?

Anyway on the whole it"s all gravy!

Looking forward to the new season :)
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Re: Season 6 Discussion
« Reply #631 on: February 21, 2012, 08:36:18 AM »

Like the new ideas and the fact that Pokerstars are hosting the league.

Festival thing sounds good.

The only thing I would change/query from last year is why does day 2 on the Sunday not start till 3.00pm?

Everyone"s there in a nearby hotel kicking their heels just hanging around, it could start earlier IMO.

Reg Fees fine by me especially if it allows the APAT to advertise/promote itself.

Agree with (much) earlier poster re the lack of the locals even knowing anything about the APAT when it turns up at their casino. To some we are an annoyance as it means their normal evening comp is either capped or cancelled.

Is it possible to run live satellites for a couple of seats at the venue in the run up to each event as this would promote the APAT brand and build some relations with the locals?

Anyway on the whole it"s all gravy!

Looking forward to the new season :)


On this note why not start day 1 earlier too? 12pm starts would be awesome
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Re: Season 6 Discussion
« Reply #632 on: February 21, 2012, 09:39:07 AM »


On this note why not start day 1 earlier too? 12pm starts would be awesome


For the same reasons as always...casino staffing.

I suppose if APAT is going to "own" the cardroom space for a couple of days (based on Des" breakdown of the festival)* then we could request more staff but that adds to the cost and thus drives up the reg. fee.

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My view is that we should go to a Festival style weekend once every two months.  That gives us more time to run satellites and promote the events hard.  Over the festival weekend, I can see us having the Online Championship event on the Thursday night, a member get together on the Friday night, the main event over Saturday and Sunday, a live event on Saturday night, a live event on Sunday afternoon and a one table Cash Tour event over the weekend also.



Saturday : Main Event Day 1
Saturday : APAT Live Event

Sunday : Main Event Day 2
Sunday : APAT Live Event
Sunday : Cash Tour Table

That means you"d have to staff up to 20 tables for something on the order of 12 hours a day over two days....not many casinos have the depth of staff to manage that. In fact the only one I can think of is DTD.
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Re: Season 6 Discussion
« Reply #633 on: February 21, 2012, 09:51:58 AM »
Reg fee not a problem.

Events 6 ok if they are going to be quite central. 8 if a couple are going to be remote.
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Added value WCOAP sounds good to me.

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Re: Season 6 Discussion
« Reply #634 on: February 21, 2012, 10:46:59 AM »
Reg fee no probs with me ,

Whenever scheduled whatever suits

WCOAP passport good idea if it wasnt being held at DTD (can i have genting seat instead and put the balance in ) ??


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Re: Season 6 Discussion
« Reply #635 on: February 21, 2012, 14:25:00 PM »
Des, you can avoid the need to introduce reg fees by simply scooping up all the tuppences and $0.02 which are on this thread.

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Re: Season 6 Discussion
« Reply #636 on: February 21, 2012, 14:55:35 PM »
I think 8-9 events is about right. What I would say though is the need for the events to be defined at the start of the season. I would not like to see extra tournaments added or tournaments cancelled once the season has started for the following reason. In the event that player x is leading the ranking points with one event to go and has a very good chance of winning the added value, only to be told that there are now two extra events, and everyone else has been given two extra bites at the cherry to overtake them, or conversely an event is cancelled leaving the chasing pack high and dry, either of these two outcomes would be a pr disaster.
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Re: Season 6 Discussion
« Reply #637 on: February 21, 2012, 15:01:48 PM »


What I would say though is the...events [should] be defined at the start of the season.



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Re: Season 6 Discussion
« Reply #638 on: February 21, 2012, 15:16:40 PM »
Misquoted ! That"s the gutter press for you, however, I must concur that your version is by far superior and grammatically correct  :P
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Re: Season 6 Discussion
« Reply #639 on: February 21, 2012, 15:20:51 PM »

Misquoted ! That"s the gutter press for you, however, I must concur that your version is by far superior and grammatically correct  :P


Gutter press...LOL  ;D
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Re: Season 6 Discussion
« Reply #640 on: February 21, 2012, 20:21:50 PM »
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Re: Season 6 Discussion
« Reply #641 on: February 21, 2012, 20:23:06 PM »

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Re: Season 6 Discussion
« Reply #642 on: February 21, 2012, 22:57:47 PM »
Reg Fee:

Seems sensible to me. No problem with this being included. Can always be taken away at a later point if conditions allow

Scheduling:

The Nationals are the Blue Riband of APAT, and cutting these down to 6 is not the way to go IMO. 9 seems about right with 1 of these being a Team Event and 1 the Festival at DTD at the end of August. The season should run March - November with Dec/Jan/Feb being the off season.


Winners Packages:

Dont like the idea of WCOAP package. To me, the idea of winning one of these, and getting a shot against Professional players and playing a GUKPT etc was a massive selling point. Taking this away would lose a big part of the appeal of APAT. UKIPT seats as a minimum really.

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Re: Season 6 Discussion
« Reply #643 on: February 21, 2012, 23:11:30 PM »
Reg fee-      10% reg is fine by me.

Scheduling-      

Would like to see more than 6 live events. And like the idea of the $55 online beign on a Thursday, much prefer than saturday anyway.

Packages-      

would of thought that everyone wants to play as many events here as possible during the WCOAP festival anyway, and i would rather win a seat to an event like GUKPT/Genting/UKIPT etc, somthing that i wouldnt really be able to buy myself into, rather than a bunch of events that i was gonna play anyway.

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Re: Season 6 Discussion
« Reply #644 on: February 21, 2012, 23:19:33 PM »
1 Reg Fee

I"ve yet to meet anyone who plays APAT games because of the free entry, most people play APAT for the community spirit, a far better USP if you ask me.

2 Scheduling

8-9 weekends a year sounds like the way to go, 2 trips to DTD and WCOAP as the season finale would be great. If I have one request to make it"s that we avoid bank holiday weekends as far as possible. May be preferable for those that can"t get much time off work but for those of us with families it"s a huge amount of grief to lose another bank holiday weekend to poker.

3 Winners Packages

I"d much rather see the added value be maintained as an entry to a higher buy in event which we wouldn"t normally be able to play rather than 3 or 4 events which we would. Speaking from experience there is nothing quite like comparing skills with the better players that the pro game (supposedly) has to offer and it"s something that I hope every APAT player has the opportunity to experience at some stage.
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