Tony g momemt, help please

[Tiger-flash]

 I need help here guys if this moment happens again
17 player tourney at the pub last night, the 1st game of a new league
jane, who has been chip leader all night was heads up with my friend aaron, i were dealing for the final table
aaron claws it back to take the lead about 3-1 up in chips then this happens......
aaron limps in on small blind and jane in the bb checks
the flop 663, aaron goes all in and jane calls immeadiately, the rest watching go crazy (to probably see the game finish) and aaron shows 68
to everyones amazement i stop the game, as jane was the bb and should of had the option to check first but aaron went all in out of turn it made her mind up straight away.
I tried to explain to him that you cant do this but he said to me that it didnt matter as she called the all in already
I dissagreed with him and explained that tony g did this on the tv and got penallised and couldnt put any more chips into the pot and it had to be checked down as he bet out of turn
jane told me she would of checked the flop first and if aaron did go all in she would of probably called but wasnt 100%
Half the pub agreed with me and the others werent sure or agreed with aaron
aaron argued with me for around 5 mins over the ruling so we both agreed to take the all in away and just play for the chips  before the turn
anyway the turn was an 8 and the river was a jack giving aaron a full house and jane showed 2 pair with aj
aaron said he would of won the match by now but only won the small pot, he went on tilt and jane eventually won the match
This left a bad taste in the pub and spoilt a good nights poker game
who was right, me or him?  

[Fatcatstu]

its pub poker, most people dont care what 2 cards they have never mind the rules.

Let it go in future, its hardly the world series main event is it?

[ForthThistle]

the ruling is....

Aaron"s all in stands, but action is refered back to Jane who has the same two options, bet or check.

If She checks, Aaron is committed to the all in, if she bets, aaron can take his all in back and has the complete option once again.

So the ruling you gave is actually wrong, sorry to say, and once Jane has said call, that stands and she is now committed to call the out of turn bet.

[SirPercival]

the ruling is....

Aaron"s all in stands, but action is refered back to Jane who has the same two options, bet or check.

If She checks, Aaron is committed to the all in, if she bets, aaron can take his all in back and has the complete option once again.

So the ruling you gave is actually wrong, sorry to say, and once Jane has said call, that stands and she is now committed to call the out of turn bet.

cut & paste FTW

[ForthThistle]

only cos its correct.

[Tiger-flash]

Thank you for the advice  

[Bigfella42]

I think you did great I would love to do that to some of my mates too  

[duke3016]

Similar situations in the aquarium most weeks, bets taken back because they didn"t see your raise, folding out of turn, discussing your cards with your neighbour when you have folded and the hand is still in progress etc etc. Pub poker is the nutz  

[thinsy147]

One of the best comedy moments from our "pub poker" games:

Player A: "All-in"
Player B: "Call"
Flop gets dealt before any cards are turned over.....
Player A shows a good hand
Player B mucks his cards
Turn and river gets dealt anyway.....
Player B frantically riffling through the cards to find his mucked hand because he hit a runner runner straight!!

Was not happy when told he has folded and no longer in the hand!!

[Tiger-flash]

One of the best comedy moments from our "pub poker" games:

Player A: "All-in"
Player B: "Call"
Flop gets dealt before any cards are turned over.....
Player A shows a good hand
Player B mucks his cards
Turn and river gets dealt anyway.....
Player B frantically riffling through the cards to find his mucked hand because he hit a runner runner straight!!

Was not happy when told he has folded and no longer in the hand!!

geeeeeeeze, ive heard it all now lol  

[Zozzy]

as jane was the bb and should of had the option to check first

this is incorrect

The All In was not out of turn.

Aaron should have won the tournament and the dealer/TD gets sacked  

[Swinebag]

as jane was the bb and should of had the option to check first

this is incorrect

The All In was not out of turn.

Aaron should have won the tournament and the dealer/TD gets sacked  

Not sure you read the opening post correctly.

The tourney was Heads up

The BB acts first post flop, so the allin was out of turn

but as has already been posted, the ruling was wrong so you are right about who should have won and who should have got sacked in the pub poker game

[Zozzy]

I stand corrected not realising with the op heads up situation. thx swinebag my mistake.

[bigalhx3]

Similar situations in the aquarium most weeks, bets taken back because they didn"t see your raise, folding out of turn, discussing your cards with your neighbour when you have folded and the hand is still in progress etc etc. Pub poker is the nutz  

you should know better then to be still doing all the above every friday beer or no beer

[AJDUK]

the ruling is....

Aaron"s all in stands, but action is refered back to Jane who has the same two options, bet or check.

If She checks, Aaron is committed to the all in, if she bets, aaron can take his all in back and has the complete option once again.

So the ruling you gave is actually wrong, sorry to say, and once Jane has said call, that stands and she is now committed to call the out of turn bet.

Even this isn"t necessarily correct, although I believe it should be.

The correct answer is to refer to the rules of the cardroom as to what to do next as they are all different. After a similar incident at Coventry Goliath this year I"ve totally given up the idea of knowing what is right and wrong in this or any other scenario.

Of course you won"t have any cardroom rules. But lets face it, out of turn or not, Aaron went all in and Jane called. The cards went on their backs and nobody but the dealer complained. The dealer should be sacked, one of the most ridiculous rulings I"ve ever heard/read.